# Diogenes: would you kindly just shut the fuck up already?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 11, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972 "2010-08-11T20:05:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/141 "2010-08-12T20:17:27Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> I like his brother.

Every family has a black sheep…

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/142 "2010-08-12T20:39:55Z")

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> [@Tahssa](#):
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> > [@Enderw24](#):
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> > Glad I could be of service.
> 
> Well at least it explains my love of rainbows. 😛

Rainbows are awesome!

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/143 "2010-08-12T22:23:30Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
> >
> > Yeah,  
> > Yeah,
> > 
> > [bobbing head]
> > 
> > Listen up, son, I’m’a tell you what’s up  
> > I’m Diognese the Cynic and I’m about to erupt  
> > all over your ass with some smackdown rhymes  
> > My flow is so fly it should be a fucking crime  
> > I’m a motherfucking Expert, it says so in my title  
> > When I post my shit you know you’re seeing something vital  
> > I can break down music like Eddie Van Halen  
> > then turn the fuck around and destroy Sarah Palin  
> > I don’t give a fuck if you’re red or you’re blue,  
> > when I talk politics, I know better than you  
> > Wanna talk about Jesus? That’s ok too,  
> > I’m a Godless atheist who can out-Bible you  
> > There ain’t no God and there ain’t no ghosts,  
> > You ask me how I know, it’s cuz I fucking SAID so  
> > I don’t need no fucking cite, my post is my defense  
> > Wikipedia, shit, I AM the evidence
> > 
> > [drops mic, folds arms]
> 
> “Stand and Deliver” defined.
> 
> Kudos. Seriously.

“Kudos”? Y’all mus’ be trippin’

Yo, DJ Cecil…KICK IT!

Shit, punk posts a few rhymes, all monosyllabic  
And posters start to drool, actin’ all so fanatic  
I came into this thread to put on a rap clinic  
Let me introduce you to the man we call “Cynic”

Yeah, you better know his style ‘fore you step on the Dope  
Cause he been sayin wack shit since you were jumpin’ rope  
Gotta know a thing or two ‘fore you come to do battle  
He’ll frustrate, make you cry like a babe without a rattle  
See, Dio’s got the skills to make you pant from exertion  
Cause there ain’t no way in hell he’ll recant an assertion  
On any single topic that’s GD material  
Be it sex, kids, drugs or anything ethereal  
If you try to call him out on a comic backpedal  
He’ll go all smoke-and-mirrors on a topic tangential  
What, you came to Great Debates expectin’ Thoreau?  
Punk, you just get another rerun of The Dio Show  
With any other poster, yo, you shouldn’t be prejudgin’  
But with D-to-the-C? Definition: _Curmudgeon_!  
Word to your moderator.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/144 "2010-08-12T22:31:04Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> > I would totally pay $20 to see you both in a rap battle of the **Dio** s.
> 
> Can they join in: \*\*; Diogenes the Jackass; \*\*

He’s already contributed.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/145 "2010-08-13T01:27:20Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > [@Munch](#):
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> > For myself, Dio is two different posters…
> 
> Same here. One is an intelligent, well informed and persuasive poster whose depth and breath of detailed knowledge on a wide range of subjects is really quite impressive; the other is a three-year-old making some nonsensical claim and then stamping his foot and yelling _“Yes it is!”_ or _“No it’s not!”_ over and over and over again in the face of disagreement, apparently under the impression that if he insists loud enough or long enough he is sure to get his way.

This.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/146 "2010-08-13T01:27:43Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> > [@Starving\_Artist](#):
> >
> > “Stand and Deliver” defined.
> > 
> > Kudos. Seriously.
> 
> “Kudos”? Y’all mus’ be trippin’
> 
> Yo, DJ Cecil…KICK IT!
> 
> Shit, punk posts a few rhymes, all monosyllabic  
> And posters start to drool, actin’ all so fanatic  
> I came into this thread to put on a rap clinic  
> Let me introduce you to the man we call “Cynic”
> 
> Yeah, you better know his style ‘fore you step on the Dope  
> Cause he been sayin wack shit since you were jumpin’ rope  
> Gotta know a thing or two ‘fore you come to do battle  
> He’ll frustrate, make you cry like a babe without a rattle  
> See, Dio’s got the skills to make you pant from exertion  
> Cause there ain’t no way in hell he’ll recant an assertion  
> On any single topic that’s GD material  
> Be it sex, kids, drugs or anything ethereal  
> If you try to call him out on a comic backpedal  
> He’ll go all smoke-and-mirrors on a topic tangential  
> What, you came to Great Debates expectin’ Thoreau?  
> Punk, you just get another rerun of The Dio Show  
> With any other poster, yo, you shouldn’t be prejudgin’  
> But with D-to-the-C? Definition: _Curmudgeon_!  
> Word to your moderator.

Damn, shit just got _real_ real, son!

Nice job.

Dio, what’ve you got now?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/147 "2010-08-13T01:44:35Z")

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Oh, I say, old chap: good show, wot?

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/148 "2010-08-13T01:51:47Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Shit, punk posts a few rhymes, all monosyllabic  
> .

Liked the whole rhyme, but the quoted part was my favorite. The flow already feels catchy to me. “all mon-o-syll-abic!” Ha!

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/149 "2010-08-13T02:29:10Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> > [@Tahssa](#):
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> > Well at least it explains my love of rainbows. 😛
> 
> Rainbows are awesome!

Double rainbow cross the sky, all the way. Yeah yeah oh my God, double rainbo-o-ow.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/150 "2010-08-13T04:16:50Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> > [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> > I like fighting ignorance. And I like laughing at stupid people. I’ve hit the motherlode on both counts here.
> 
> Nobody likes you. Go away and die as soon as possible.

I like **Rand Rover** despite disagreeing with just about everything he posts (unless he’s being snarky - then it’s comedy gold).

**Diogenes** regularly posts stuff that makes me pound my head against my desk in disbelief; however, his rap was pretty cool (says the white, middle aged wanna-be soccer mom).

I also like you **Vinyl Turnip** because you are uber-snarky (including to me) and I appreciate that.

Anyhow - this post is only vaguely related to the OP, so I’ll just wrap up by saying I wish **Dio** would shut the fuck up about stupid stuff once and a while, 'cus when he’s not being a huge twat, he posts pretty good stuff.

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**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/151 "2010-08-13T11:58:06Z")

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Jeez, crackers, stop those rap battles.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/152 "2010-08-13T12:40:39Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
>
> Yo, DJ Cecil…KICK IT!
> 
> Shit, punk posts a few rhymes, all monosyllabic  
> And posters start to drool, actin’ all so fanatic  
> I came into this thread to put on a rap clinic  
> Let me introduce you to the man we call “Cynic”
> 
> Yeah, you better know his style ‘fore you step on the Dope  
> Cause he been sayin wack shit since you were jumpin’ rope  
> Gotta know a thing or two ‘fore you come to do battle  
> He’ll frustrate, make you cry like a babe without a rattle  
> See, Dio’s got the skills to make you pant from exertion  
> Cause there ain’t no way in hell he’ll recant an assertion  
> On any single topic that’s GD material  
> Be it sex, kids, drugs or anything ethereal  
> If you try to call him out on a comic backpedal  
> He’ll go all smoke-and-mirrors on a topic tangential  
> What, you came to Great Debates expectin’ Thoreau?  
> Punk, you just get another rerun of The Dio Show  
> With any other poster, yo, you shouldn’t be prejudgin’  
> But with D-to-the-C? Definition: _Curmudgeon_!  
> Word to your moderator.

That’s the worst haiku I’ve ever read.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/153 "2010-08-13T13:39:21Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> > [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> > Fuck off, Rand Rover.
> 
> This violates the language rules for the pit. Please refrain from sexual insults aimed at other posters. No warning issued.

At first I thought you were quoting me to agree with me. ☹

> [@Munch](#):
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> That’s the worst haiku I’ve ever read.

Ha ha! _Ha!_ I cackled.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/154 "2010-08-13T14:11:45Z")

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Try reading it in that fake Groucho Marx voice of the guy in the Vlasic Pickle commercial.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/155 "2010-08-13T14:15:03Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
>
> > [@Starving\_Artist](#):
> >
> > “Stand and Deliver” defined.
> > 
> > Kudos. Seriously.
> 
> “Kudos”? Y’all mus’ be trippin’
> 
> Yo, DJ Cecil…KICK IT!
> 
> Shit, punk posts a few rhymes, all monosyllabic  
> And posters start to drool, actin’ all so fanatic…

5 thumbs up! Highly recommended! But where/how does “DJ Cecil” fit into your shit?

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**Author:** ![The\_Surb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Surb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Surb)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/156 "2010-08-13T14:31:16Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
>
> > [@MeanOldLady](#):
> >
> > Fuck off, Rand Rover.
> 
> This violates the language rules for the pit. Please refrain from sexual insults aimed at other posters. No warning issued.

What I would like to know is what insults cannot be construed as sexual?

Asshole = sexual, I’m sure there’s a website for it

eat shit - yep, website for that

pussy - I’m sure I can google a website that sexualizes this phrase

fuck off- website for this

jerk - you mean jerkoff?

son of a bitch - well, someone had to fuck for the son to get here

butthurt - definite website

dickless - obvious

shithead - already covered with eat shit

motherfucker - all sorts of websites

troll - I bet I can find a bunch of weirdos that dress up in troll costumes on the web somewhere.

spermburpin’ gutterslut - that was a gimme, I just like saying it.

So how is is practical not to have insults without some kind of sexual connotation?

How is \*\*fuck off \*\*even a little bit sexual, if the other examples aren’t? I’m not sure MOL really wants him to go off and fuck someone or really thinks he is going to stick his dick in himself (I could be wrong, though).

We will be limited to calling each other stupid, idiot, or Rand Rovers (although I am sure I can turn RR into some kind of sex insult).

Maybe you should have an **APPROVED INSULT LIST** that we can consult beforehand.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/157 "2010-08-13T14:50:34Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> > [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
> >
> > “Kudos”? Y’all mus’ be trippin’
> > 
> > Yo, DJ Cecil…KICK IT!
> > 
> > Shit, punk posts a few rhymes, all monosyllabic  
> > And posters start to drool, actin’ all so fanatic…
> 
> 5 thumbs up! Highly recommended! But where/how does “DJ Cecil” fit into your shit?

Well, someone gotta spin my beats, jigga.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/158 "2010-08-13T14:54:58Z")

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> [@The\_Surb](#):
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> I’m not sure MOL really wants him to go off and fuck someone or really thinks he is going to stick his dick in himself…

Let’s not be hasty…

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/159 "2010-08-13T14:56:09Z")

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> [@The\_Surb](#):
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> How is \*\*fuck off \*\*even a little bit sexual, if the other examples aren’t? I’m not sure MOL really wants him to go off and fuck someone or really thinks he is going to stick his dick in himself (I could be wrong, though).
> 
> We will be limited to calling each other stupid, idiot, or Rand Rovers (although I am sure I can turn RR into some kind of sex insult).
> 
> Maybe you should have an **APPROVED INSULT LIST** that we can consult beforehand.

Psst. Last year called…

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/160 "2010-08-13T14:58:41Z")

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> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#):
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> …, so I’ll just wrap up by saying I wish **Dio** would shut the fuck up about stupid stuff once and a while, 'cus when he’s not being a huge twat, he posts pretty good stuff.

Aye! Thar’s the rub! When he’s good, he’s **good** , when he’s not, he’s a **twat**! May the pitting continue…

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