# Diplomacy - Dominatrix

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 2, 2003, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727 "2003-07-02T05:54:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Einmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Einmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einmon)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/41 "2003-07-11T20:01:22Z")

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Oi! I’ve got a fan!

:: extends ducal hand ::

You may kiss my ring, **Shibb** , and I’m sure when Italians rule the world I’ll think of your kind words.

And I don’t think there really _needs_ to be a plural for dominatrix once I get to the top.

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**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/42 "2003-07-11T21:19:23Z")

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I thought the plural was “dominatrices.”

No matter.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/43 "2003-07-12T01:33:52Z")

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_falls to knees beneath a streetlight, raises hands to sky_

Adjucate! ADJUCATE!!!

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/44 "2003-07-12T10:02:35Z")

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Ahem, it’s _adjudicate_.

We’re getting down to brass tacks, there will be a decision first thing tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/45 "2003-07-12T10:03:50Z")

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Um, in case you’re curious, I’m still up, so first thing tomorrow means once I wake up on Saturday.

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**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/46 "2003-07-12T17:41:58Z")

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Wow. Sleeping in, are we? 😉

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/47 "2003-07-12T18:32:21Z")

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Correct spelling doesn’t matter when you’re screaming your heart out beneath a streetlight.

_grumblemumble_

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/48 "2003-07-12T18:49:27Z")

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I like adjucate.

I hereby propose that adjucate be introduced into the English language. Do I have a second?  
And, like the other, is there a page for this game?

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**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/49 "2003-07-12T19:22:52Z")

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Second!

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/50 "2003-07-12T21:05:59Z")

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There will be a page for the game.

Progress is being made on clearing up the issue, I hope to have it sorted out in a hours time.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/51 "2003-07-12T23:14:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Omniscient \*  
> \*\*I just wanted to remind everyone that the deadline is still set for 5PM CDT on Thursday the 10th.
> 
> How has the game been progressing so far, plenty of communication from all players I hope? Is there any potential reason for anyone to be requiring a delay? If not, wonderful. \*I’ll be pleasantly surprised if this first year passes by without incident. \*\*\*

Wow, I certainly jinxed us there, didn’t I?

Anyways, its been all sorted out. Here’s the text of the email which I just sent to all the players. It lists the results, and explains the minor drama which held the game up briefly.

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OK, our situation has finally been sorted out. Here’s the results, the new map is attatched. I’ll set aside some time and get at least a rudimentary webpage set up this weekend. I have aspirations to do a new version that would be a little nicer than those past, we’ll see if that happens or not in the next couple days.

Austria:  
A Budapest - Serbia  
F Trieste - Albania  
A Vienna - Galicia (_Bounce_)

England:  
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea  
A Liverpool - Edinburgh  
F London Hold

France:  
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean  
A Marseilles - Spain  
A Paris - Picardy

Germany:  
A Berlin - Silesia  
F Kiel - Denmark  
A Munich Hold

Italy:  
F Naples - Ionian Sea  
A Rome - Apulia  
A Venice - Trieste

Russia:  
A Moscow - Ukraine  
F Sevastopol - Rumania  
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia  
A Warsaw - Galicia (_Bounce_)

Turkey:  
F Ankara - Black Sea  
A Constantinople - Bulgaria  
A Smyrna - Constantinople

As for the holdup, let me explain the situation. Many of you submitted orders early and asked me to proof them upon receipt. I did so, however one player submitted orders a couple hours before the deadline, and this player didn’t quite understand the rules of the game and didn’t ask for a proofing. I nudged him to take another look at the rules, but the deadline passed without me having received any corrected orders. At this point, were I to adjudicate with the orders I had, it would have essentially amounted to one player being NMRed. I wanted to avoid this at all costs, but I also didn’t want to cross the line into actively helping one player.

I decided to consult the super secret Dip GM society and get some opinions. Everyone agreed that considering that this was the first turn in a newbie game, I should go out of my way to make sure that everyone understood what was going on in the best interests of the game to make it its most enjoyable and competitive for the benefit of all. I then got in touch with the player, and instructed him to reread the rules because his orders were invalid. It intially wasn’t apparent to him just what the problem was so I tried my best to explain it without giving advice or guidance. He subsequently understood the issue and submitted correct orders a short while ago. And happily enough, here we are moving forward again.

You may all resume dipping post haste, and I’m going to assign a Fall 1901 deadline of Wednesday at Noon.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, let me know.

~Your altruistic GM

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And there you have it. Its a interesting turn to say the least, and I hope there’s a little commentary for the sake of the newbies.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/52 "2003-07-13T00:33:19Z")

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Well that was a cryptic explanation if I’ve ever seen one.

Did they attempt teleportation? Walking on water? Rowing on land? Yorkshire Pudding?

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/53 "2003-07-13T00:54:44Z")

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Are you going to link to the map? Can you link to the map? Is there an independing map that we can follow along with? Can you make one? Please?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/54 "2003-07-13T00:58:17Z")

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Hmm, I’d say teleportation is the closest.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/55 "2003-07-13T01:09:18Z")

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They were attemping a 21st century move in the early 20th century. Only works in extreme variants. 😉

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/56 "2003-07-13T01:19:54Z")

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All right, all right. You people are a pushy lot!

Here’s a hacked together page that shows the basics.

[Dip 1137 “Dominatrix”](http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/1137/S01.htm)

Enjoy.

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**Author:** ![Mastema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@Mastema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mastema)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/57 "2003-07-13T02:10:45Z")

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#@$$#@% BOUNCE!!!

That throws off my whole schedule. Now I won’t rule the world until Thursday or Friday.

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**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/58 "2003-07-13T03:11:15Z")

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Interesting turn.

Start the heckling!

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/59 "2003-07-13T03:51:34Z")

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Austria (Generalfeldmarschall **Whack-A-Mole** ):  
Ah, Austria comes out strong against the Russian, perhaps aided and abetted by Germany, but est is _sehr_ glucklich dass hat nicht passiert. That bounce was fortuituous indeed! Now, how to rid oneself of those pesky Italians? Once they start setting up peasant camps and selling pizza to the tourists on the Adriatic you’ll never get rid of them!

England (King **Flood** nik the Last):  
Perhaps an overly cautious opening. Sure, you’ve kept the French on your side (and long may the English quake at the sight of French troops massing in Bretagne!) but why not have a go at the North Sea? Surely this is English sovereign territory, _n’est pas_?

France (Bravo, **Johnny Bravo** heh, is he good looking or what. Hold me Mama!):  
Guaranteed three builds in the opener. Not bad at all. But beware the flame that burns brightest oft burns shortest!

Germany (Kaiserin **Erika** ):  
Again the wily French have by the pen kept the barbarians at the door. (Forgive me the fantasy of the fair Kaiserin bedecked in furs and grasping a shining sword, dripping in the blood of the Franks, if you will. We’ll go with the more common black leather theme later… ) Anyway, I’d have played it a little differently in _den Hinterlaenden, personlich_, but let’s see how this one plays out. Beware ceding too much to the French! Don’t forget, Charlemagne was first Karl der Grosse.

Italy (Principessa **Einmon** ):  
Nice aggressive opening against the Huns. But can you keep the gains? There is a way, yes, there is a way, but can you see it? If only the Russian hadn’t bounced him in Galicia you’d be home free. And one more that the French have turned on their ear with sweet words?

Russia ( **Mastema** Rasputinov):  
The bounce in Galicia saved Warsaw, and Rumania is safe, but is the Black Sea too high a price to have paid? Time will tell on that one, Mad Monk! Your biggest concern is in the North, where you may have fierce battles ahead. You really need to get the Germans and/or the English on your side! Meanwhile, the Turk can’t be thinking of grabbing Sevastopol, can he? Hot water in every direction, on the land, not so bad. Not an atypical position for the Russians.

Turkey (Noodle **Soup du Jour** ):  
Clever to have commanded the Black. But the Turkish dilemna is typically where to go next. The Austrian and the Russian may both need your help. Who to help, and where? And is Cyprus rightfully yours? So many opportunities, so few resources!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/60 "2003-07-13T04:01:18Z")

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Question: Are builds resolved before moves?

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