# Diplomacy - Dominatrix **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 2, 2003, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727 "2003-07-02T05:54:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Mastema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@Mastema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mastema)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/121 "2003-07-16T21:24:56Z")
[RCN.COM](http://RCN.COM) looks to be down altogether, could be a while. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/122 "2003-07-16T21:42:39Z")
Seems to be back up. The email is out and the webpage is updated. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/123 "2003-07-16T23:25:37Z")
Y’know, Ben, if you link two pages together, you have a website. 🙂 Russia, I hope the game was fun for you. Good going, Green. A bit unusual, but it could work very well. ---
**Author:** ![Einmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Einmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einmon)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/124 "2003-07-16T23:39:04Z")
I shall henceforth call it the Balkan Somersault. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/125 "2003-07-16T23:54:52Z")
I like that! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/126 "2003-07-16T23:58:45Z")
Gotta feel sorry for Austria. And France. Gotta for sorry for France. Peaceful, harmless France. Non-threatening, well defended, not-worth-your-time, look-the-other-way France. France. We come from France. ---
**Author:** ![Mastema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@Mastema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mastema)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/127 "2003-07-17T00:05:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lemur866 \* > \*\*I just want to say, I’ve always wanted to see Russia refuse to move to Sweden in an anticipation of a German bounce. The Russian fleet in the Baltic really puts the squeeze on the Jerries. \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > **Russia, I hope the game was fun for you.** Well, that’s one vote for and one against. I hope the Bothnian Gambit turns out ok. ---
**Author:** ![Einmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Einmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einmon)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/128 "2003-07-17T00:06:00Z")
Yeah. France is at the top of my list to feel sorry for. Every morning when I wake up I check my list: 1. Feel sorry for France 2. Brush teeth and whatnot 3. Go about conquering Europe 4. Consider feeling sorry for France again ---
**Author:** ![Einmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Einmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einmon)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/129 "2003-07-17T00:12:05Z")
Oh, and Bothnian Gambit always sounds to me like somebody with a speech impediment is trying to conquer the Balkans. You thee, when I check the vithinity of Therbia, Bothnia ith mythteriouthly mitthing. But maybe that’s the gambit part. It’th a thecret. ---
**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/130 "2003-07-17T00:31:48Z")
🙂 Gotta love those Italians. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/131 "2003-07-17T00:56:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \* > But perhaps best of all is someone with the name **Whack-A-Mole** getting Austria… surely that must be more than blind Providence? You can say that again! I had NO freaking idea what I was in for here! In my defense I didn’t choose it but got stuck with Austria instead. I visited Austria in 1991 and loved it. Austria in 1901? You can keep it! Everybody and their freaking mother wants a piece of me! Being a newbie I wasn’t aware of the danger Austria is in. Frankly I think Austria has the worst spot of the lot. FOUR countries have immediate access to Austria. No other spot on the map is in such danger. I think the Russians have the second most dangerous starting point being spread out as they are but then again they get four armies to start which mitigates that to some extent. It also kills me how easily promises are broken in this game. I realize that judicious backstabbing is an important (and fun) part but does no one understand the value of a trusted ally? Certainly they may come to blows eventually but to hard and fast friends can go far if they needn’t worry about each other. Maybe I’m just naive and my current position after the Fall move would seem to indicate this. My only saving grace is that so many countries are scambling to pick Austria apart that they almost interfere with each other. I am curious as to people’s view on the strategies so far. Particularly perplexing to me was Italy’s venture into Austria. Certainly is caused me trouble…no doubt. However I don’t see the gain for Italy being there. Italy would then have Germany, Russia, Turkey and France to worry about. It seems better for Italy to take a stab at Turkey or France first as the gains would be much safer from plunder from multiple sources. Hopefully it is ok to speculate on that as at this point those cards have already been played. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/132 "2003-07-17T01:04:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \* > \*\*Even the first timers seem to have grasped the first most important rule about Diplomacy. . . dogpile Austria. \*\* Why why why? I’m not such a bad guy! Austria is good! Austria is your friend! I’m going the way of Switzerland and going neutral…put the hash marks across my country! I’ve already posted the KEEP OUT and BEWARE OF DOG signs at the borders. I’ll just stay tucked away up here enjoying my beer while listening to Mozart and counting the days till they come to film _The Sound of Music_. ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/133 "2003-07-17T02:31:02Z")
What are you talking about, **Whack-a-Mole**? Turkey, for one, has no particular objection to Austria. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mastema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@Mastema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mastema)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/134 "2003-07-17T02:37:58Z")
Hmm, lets see, Turkey borders two other Nations, Russia and Austria. . .Turkey has no problem with Austria . . . therefore. . . I must say I’m having a hard time working through the logic here. ---
**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/135 "2003-07-17T02:49:55Z")
England for one, has no problems with the Austrians. Just know that someone out there loves ya’all. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/136 "2003-07-17T02:53:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mastema \* > \*\*Hmm, lets see, Turkey borders two other Nations, Russia and Austria. . .Turkey has no problem with Austria . . . therefore. . . > > I must say I’m having a hard time working through the logic here. \*\* Ha! If I had a nickle for all the times I’ve been told that…(and we’re only two turns in)! [sub]I’ve even got a raft of e-mails to show people sweetly feigning innocence while they screwed me all the while.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/137 "2003-07-17T02:56:15Z")
Hint, Mastema. Greece. Serbia. Mediterranean. The possibilities are endless. ---
**Author:** ![Erika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/47e85d/32.png) [@Erika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erika)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/138 "2003-07-17T03:05:40Z")
There’s lots of love out there for Austria! [And the Italians make me laugh. :^)] ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/139 "2003-07-17T03:54:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Whack-a-Mole \* > **I’ve even got a raft of e-mails to show people sweetly feigning innocence while they screwed me all the while.** I guess some might say big deal to that…it’s the name of the game. I agree to the extent that someone smiles at you while going behind your back is part of the fun. What I’m on about is more akin to someone plunging a knife in you and looking you straight in the eye trying to explain how this is actually a good thing and a favor they are doing you. I’m still trying to figure if the person in question honestly expected me to buy that. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/140 "2003-07-17T03:56:59Z")
Pfft. You all should have gotten three builds in the fall. Like me. Then you wouldn’t have all these problems. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727.md?page=8)