# Diplomacy - Dominatrix **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 2, 2003, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727 "2003-07-02T05:54:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Jonmarzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jonmarzie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonmarzie)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/141 "2003-07-17T05:48:46Z")
Pfft. You should notice, **Johnny Bravo** , that you haven’t had any contact with any other countries. They are running away from France like roaches from the light. Does this mean I’m comparing **Bravo’s** France to a beacon of light in the midst of disgusting roaches? :eek: Maybe I am . . . . 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/142 "2003-07-17T07:08:14Z")
The adjustments are in, and the new webpage is ready [Diplomacy 1137 Dominatrix - Winter 1901](http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/1137/W01.htm) ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/143 "2003-07-17T07:28:37Z")
Heh heh. Who is it whose advertising campaign goes (roughly) “you miss a little, you miss a lot!”? That’s how I feel here. No time for the slamming about of egos like last time (at least not yet), but let’s just say it’s an interesting map. And I _love_ the chatter in this game. I think we’ll end up with some hardcore players out of this group. Hopefully even Austria is having fun (it’s so damned long to write out **Whack-a-Mole** that I just can’t be bothered) and learning something. Don’t worry France, your time will come (or it won’t, and you’ll run away with this thing). I can’t wait to see what happens next. (On Preview, I hadn’t even noticed that Winter had already come and gone… jeez there’s a lot of French, Turks and Italians in this Universe!) ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/144 "2003-07-17T15:00:42Z")
Yo, Italy. Your Lepanto isn’t fooling anybody. ---
**Author:** ![Einmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Einmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einmon)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/145 "2003-07-17T15:21:12Z")
Yo, Turkey. Lepanto, Schmepanto. I just want to sell Pizza to the Balkans. Pizza and cheap red wine. ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/146 "2003-07-17T15:32:57Z")
Yo, Italy. What’s the deal with that fleet in Naples? I assume it’s going towards France, right? ---
**Author:** ![Einmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Einmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einmon)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/147 "2003-07-17T15:51:34Z")
Yo, Turkey. Shh…don’t give the French any ideas. No, Mr. Frenchie, don’t listen to that Turkish man. He’s confused. Confused, I say. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/148 "2003-07-17T15:54:01Z")
Advice: France: Wheeeeeeeeeee! I suggest having the servants send messages to the other countries demanding immediate surrender. You can go north or south. The south looks very crowded, so the north is the best bet. Who will be your first victim: England or Germany? I also advise pretending to be friends with the guy you don’t attack first. Tell him that once you’ve killed his neighbor, you’ll leave him completely alone. England: You have no out-and-out enemies yet, an enviable position. You have your pick of allies…Germany, France or Russia. None are in a position to attack you, yet you are in position to at least annoy all of them. Demand some neutral centers from everyone, or perhaps stab someone. Germany: The lurch south has left you badly exposed to England and France. The best news is that Russia is in real trouble, although he cleverly sacrificed Sweden. But he can still cause you problems. I advise getting one more unit back north. Remember, Russia is going to lose Sevastopol this turn. Their only prospect of getting a build is taking one of your centers. So defend yourself…but remember that attacking the enemy homeland is just as effective as keeping him out of your homeland. Russia: You are in trouble, you’ve lost the South. Write it off, and concentrate on the North. You’ve got to make a truce with either Germany or England, and grab some centers to make up for your losses. Play aggressively, you’ve got nothing to lose. Your advantage is that you are playing in Germany’s backyard, rather than him playing in yours. Turkey: All those fleets are a signal to everyone that you are planning a Med strategy. Nothing wrong with that, just remember that Turkey has the most difficulty developing his units, since they must be built waaaaaay back in the corners. Take Sev, consider offering Austria client state status. He will absorb the punches of Germany and Italy, while you pick off undefended centers with your fleets. Austria: You aren’t in such a bad position…provided that you can get some allies. Turkey is the most likely candidate. All those fleets are a threat to Italy and eventually France, but not so much to you. I advise groveling. The other thing is that there are many units against you, but they are from many different countries. Is Russia going to cooperate with Germany? I don’t think so. In fact, Russia is more likely to help you against Germany, no matter what they were scheming last turn. Italy: You are in good shape for now. Aggressive play has got you the elusive 2 build opening. And a unit in Serbia is very valuable, since so much depends on leverage. That guy is a sniper behind enemy lines and can cause all sorts of grief. Even if you’re dislodged, your retreats can still cause trouble. That one unit will tie up many times more enemy units attempting to defend against it. But watch out for Turkey. A two fleet build is a clear signal that he’s coming after you. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/149 "2003-07-17T17:16:59Z")
Just one question for the Newbie players. Anyone feeling paranoid yet? Just asking. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/150 "2003-07-17T17:43:57Z")
I’m only paranoid because all the other players are out to get me. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/151 "2003-07-17T19:26:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lemur866 \* > \*\*And a unit in Serbia is very valuable, since so much depends on leverage. That guy is a sniper behind enemy lines and can cause all sorts of grief. \*\* Sniper or near future roadkill? Guess it all depends on your perspective. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Johnny Bravo:_ > I’m only paranoid because all the other players are out to get me. Having been there (and still there) I can say without equivocation everyone IS out to get me! The only reason France and England haven’t joined the gang-rape is simply that they couldn’t get to the party fast enough. I’m sure when they do arrive they will attempt to make up for lost time. :eek: How’s that for paranoia? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/152 "2003-07-17T19:42:39Z")
Remember, units are only disbanded due to lack of support. You can force a unit to retreat, but you can only destroy it outright if there are no valid spaces for it to retreat to. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/153 "2003-07-17T20:27:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Johnny Bravo \* > \*\*I’m only paranoid because all the other players are out to get me. \*\* How ironic. ---
**Author:** ![Einmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Einmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einmon)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/154 "2003-07-17T20:35:09Z")
I’m not paranoid. After all, I’ve got Luigi and Giuseppe and Mario and Mario’s elder brother. ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/155 "2003-07-17T22:11:33Z")
Mario’s elder brother is named Giovanni. Once again. Austria. _I’m not out to get you!_ ---
**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/156 "2003-07-17T22:45:10Z")
England is thouroughly uninterested in the matters of the south. Its those damn Germans/French/Russians that really get me going… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/157 "2003-07-17T22:45:23Z")
England is thouroughly disinterested in the matters of the south. Its those damn Germans/French/Russians that really get me going… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mastema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@Mastema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mastema)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/158 "2003-07-17T22:54:02Z")
Oh don’t you EVEN get me started!!! I will come up there and stick this cossack boot so far up your armada that your crumpets will taste like leather! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/159 "2003-07-17T22:59:29Z")
Worried about the French? I don’t see why anybody should be worried about the French. We haven’t even attacked anyone! ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727/160 "2003-07-18T05:26:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Johnny Bravo \* > \*\*Worried about the French? > > I don’t see why anybody should be worried about the French. We haven’t even attacked anyone! \*\* It’s just an obsession by the media. Pay it no mind. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-dominatrix/185727.md?page=9)