# Diplomacy - Sophomore **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 27, 2003, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693 "2003-06-27T03:31:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/61 "2003-07-17T06:35:16Z")
Ok, let me get this straight, First you make us wait for our results… Then, you come in here and rub in the fact that your on some “vacation” on some “beach”… The nerve of some people. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/62 "2003-07-17T07:09:26Z")
That’s pretty much it. Results are in. Some of you will be happier than others. Unfortunately I don’t think it was you mouthy ones who got whacked. I’ll post results here shortly, and make another half-assed attempt to up the website. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/63 "2003-07-17T07:14:38Z")
Okay, let’s see if I can post this without chopping off part of the Austrian Empire again… **Fall Results:** Austria: F Albania - Ionian Sea A Rumania Supports A Trieste - Serbia A Trieste - Serbia England: F London - English Channel F North Sea - Norway (_Bounce_) A Yorkshire - London France: F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean A Picardy - Belgium A Spain - Marseilles (_Bounce_) Germany: F Denmark - Sweden (_Bounce_) A Kiel - Berlin A Ruhr - Holland Italy: A Piedmont - Marseilles (_Bounce_) A Tuscany - Tunis F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tuscany - Tunis Russia: F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden (_Bounce_) F Sevastopol Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria (_Fails_) A Silesia Hold A St Petersburg - Norway (_Bounce_) Turkey: F Ankara - Black Sea A Bulgaria - Greece A Constantinople - Bulgaria Austria: 5 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 2 units. England: 3 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 0 units. France: 5 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 2 units. Germany: 5 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 2 units. Italy: 4 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 1 unit. Russia: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units. Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 2 units. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/64 "2003-07-17T14:49:29Z")
We have builds from 2 of the 5 due so far. Soon as we gets them all you’ll get updates. Yeah, I know you’re all still sleeping/working/tripping/etc. Just send them in when you get a chance… ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/65 "2003-07-17T16:20:16Z")
My builds are in. Some of you all are going to get a spanking. And some of you are NOT going to get a spanking. Yes, I’m talking to you, you, and especially YOU. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/66 "2003-07-17T17:07:57Z")
I have all but 1.5 of the builds in. (Yes, I know that’s a weird number but it makes sense, believe me). Anyway, hopefully we’ll have adjudication by tonight some time. Here’s the [link for the website again](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/ShibbOleth/sophomore.html), which is feeling much better now, thank you. Some of the links even work. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/67 "2003-07-17T19:59:09Z")
We have all of the orders in, but one of youse wanted to check his orders in RP before finalizing. I’m just waiting for a note that they stand then I can adjudicate. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/68 "2003-07-17T23:39:03Z")
My opining: Italy, why Pie - Mar? Of course France is going to defend it. If you’d let them, they would have been denied a build. They’d be a bit closer, but now there may be a build there anyway. So many games where the north is peacefully divied up, it’s fun to see one where everyone is trying to screw everyone else. Looks like Germany is the top, though. Russia. What game are you playing? Why didn’t you Sil - Mun? Why did you let Turkey have your sea? Why did you submit an impossible support order? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/69 "2003-07-17T23:58:56Z")
If I may speculate about the Marsailles situation. Italy tried to persuade me that they had renounced their dastardly warlike ways. I appeared to accept those representations, but of course I did not really believe them. Italy took a chance that I would gamble and hold in Spain rather than lose the chance of a build. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/70 "2003-07-18T00:18:38Z")
Ah, the move is more understandable then, but still slightly iffy. That’s why I ask the questions. Was I right about a build in Mar? I just hope Russia’s moves are that understandable. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/71 "2003-07-18T05:23:06Z")
Austria: Build A Bud Build A Vie France: Build F Bre Build A Mar Germany: Build A Munich Build F Kiel Italy: Build F Venice Turkey: Build F Con Build F Smy **Wikkit** , I think you’ve won a Kewpie Doll! As for Italy, he’s not a real board member (although an honorary one by now, perhaps), so you’ll not get a response from him. I’ll ask him next time I get a chance. And I had a similar question for Russia in my head, but as GM have refrained from commentary. Everybody makes mistakes. Some are more costly than others. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/72 "2003-07-18T23:01:32Z")
As the wind whistles gently through the willows, the [website](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/ShibbOleth/sophomore.html) is quietly [updated](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/ShibbOleth/sophomore/Winter01.html). All quiet on the Western Front. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/73 "2003-07-19T00:11:35Z")
Yeah, having Swe and Nwy empty just looks odd. I still don’t like Russia’s position, but I guess we’ll see how far Turkish good will can go. No Lepanto worries in this game, unlike the other two. I know what a kewpie is, but what’s the reference? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/74 "2003-07-19T12:59:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > \*\*… > > I know what a kewpie is, but what’s the reference? \*\* In the old time fairs one used to win a Kewpie Doll for knocking over the plates, bottles, etc. I was awarding you one for correctly guessing the build in Marseilles. ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesuch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesuch)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/75 "2003-07-20T17:10:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > \*\* > No Lepanto worries in this game, unlike the other two. > > \*\* Isn’t it said, “Victory is fleeting?” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/76 "2003-07-21T07:34:28Z")
Hey kids, Just wanted to check in. Hopefully most of you were aware that I was offline from Thursday to just a few hours ago, and as a result I was silent. I realize now that I forgot to give you all a heads up as to my absence, so hopefully no one took my lack of communication personally. Its late and I won’t getting outany messages tonite, but expect to hear form me midday tomorrow. Wisconsin this weekend, all of Europe the next! ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/77 "2003-07-21T12:35:05Z")
Ah, **Omni** , you should see the orders I’ve been getting over the weekend for filet-of-Germany. Just Kidding! ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/78 "2003-07-21T13:19:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \* > \*\*Ah, **Omni** , you should see the orders I’ve been getting over the weekend for filet-of-Germany. \*\* Hey, don’t look at me, I ordered the phoenix. Oh wait, wrong thread. ObOnTopic: I’m deciding between chicken Kiev, or roast Turkey, or cabbage soup Italiano. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/79 "2003-07-22T16:49:22Z")
Just so it’s here, too. Deadline for Spring is delayed until tomorrow, noon 23 July. Deadline for Fall is now noon, Tuesday 29 July. And don’t forget to double check your orders. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2003, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/80 "2003-07-22T17:56:47Z")
Omni, I hope you don’t mind that I took the liberty of submitting orders for you while you were away… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693.md?page=5)