# Diplomacy - Sophomore

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 27, 2003, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693 "2003-06-27T03:31:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/81 "2003-07-23T18:44:14Z")

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Austria:  
A Budapest - Galicia  
F Ionian Sea - Tunis (_Fails_)  
A Rumania - Ukraine  
A Serbia - Trieste (_Bounce_)  
A Vienna - Trieste (_Bounce_)

England:  
F English Channel Convoys A London - Picardy  
A London - Picardy  
F North Sea Supports F English Channel

France:  
A Belgium Hold  
F Brest - English Channel (_Fails_)  
A Marseilles - Piedmont (_Fails_)  
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Brest - English Channel  
A Spain - Portugal

Germany:  
A Berlin - Prussia  
F Denmark - Skagerrak  
A Holland Hold  
F Kiel - Denmark  
A Munich - Silesia

Italy:  
A Piedmont Hold  
A Tunis Hold  
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon  
F Venice - Adriatic Sea

Russia:  
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden  
F Sevastopol Hold  
A Silesia - Warsaw  
A St Petersburg - Moscow

Turkey:  
F Black Sea Hold  
A Bulgaria - Serbia (_Fails_)  
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea  
A Greece Hold  
F Smyrna - Eastern Mediterranean

An email with a map has been sent. Next I’ll update the website.

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**Author:** ![Lockz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Lockz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockz)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/82 "2003-07-23T19:09:53Z")

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Interesting stuff here. I saw some of it coming, but the rest was a surprise.

:: passes out fine English ale to everyone ::

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/83 "2003-07-23T19:16:06Z")

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[New page](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/ShibbOleth/sophomore/Spring02.html) added to the website.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/84 "2003-07-23T20:53:16Z")

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Just wanted to give everyone advanced warning that I’ll be out of town again this weekend from Friday afternoon until Sunday evening, without email contact. And as usual, I work all afternoon, evening and night Monday. So, we’ll have to work on getting our emails exchanged in the meantime somehow. Cheers.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/85 "2003-07-24T01:37:16Z")

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Quit having so much fun. I’m also driving back to Ohio this weekend, so I won’t see emails from sometime Friday night until late Sunday, at the earliest, maybe Monday morning.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/86 "2003-07-31T18:35:38Z")

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All orders were in by noon, but almost everyone had some mistake in their orders. A couple I was able to correct, otherwise I sent a note advising you to review your orders. I’ll give you all until about 4 pm to review and revise, and then I’m adjudicating.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/87 "2003-07-31T20:24:24Z")

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Austria:  
A Galicia Supports A Serbia - Rumania  
F Ionian Sea Hold  
A Serbia - Rumania (_Dislodged_)  
A Ukraine Supports A Silesia - Warsaw (_Disbanded_)  
A Vienna - Budapest

England:  
F English Channel - Belgium  
F North Sea Supports F English Channel - Belgium  
A Picardy - Paris

France:  
A Belgium - Picardy  
F Brest - English Channel  
A Marseilles - Piedmont (_Dislodged_)  
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Brest - English Channel  
A Portugal Hold

Germany:  
F Denmark - Sweden (_Fails_)  
A Holland Hold  
A Prussia - Livonia  
A Silesia - Warsaw  
F Skagerrak S F Denmark (_Invalid Order_)

Italy:  
F Adriatic Sea Supports F Ionian Sea  
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Piedmont - Marseilles  
A Piedmont - Marseilles  
A Tunis Hold

Russia:  
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Ukraine  
F Sevastopol Supports F Black Sea - Rumania  
F Sweden Hold  
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Turkey:  
F Aegean Sea - Greece  
F Black Sea - Rumania (_Bounce_)  
A Bulgaria Supports A Greece - Serbia  
F Eastern Mediterranean - Aegean Sea  
A Greece - Serbia

**Retreats** :

French A Marseilles can retreat to Spain or Gascony or Burgundy or Off The Board.

Austrian A Serbia can retreat to Trieste or Albania or OTB

I’ll update the website later this evening. Get the retreats in ASAP!

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/88 "2003-08-01T13:17:46Z")

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**Retreats:**  
France:  
A Marseilles scurries off to Bourgone

Austria:  
A Serbia skulks off to Trieste

A lot of changes going on now. As noted, you often learn who your real friends and enemies are in 1902.

Then later it all changes again…  
**Adjustments:**  
Austria: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0  
England: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2  
France: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2  
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1  
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1  
Russia: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0  
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1

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**Author:** ![Lockz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Lockz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockz)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/89 "2003-08-12T17:39:50Z")

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I guess no-one likes talking in here anymore. What about the spectators? No barbs for us? Any scathing comments on our tactical blunders?

And has anyone heard from **Shibb** lately?

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/90 "2003-08-13T21:05:19Z")

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Yeah, he e-mailed me today.

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**Author:** ![Lockz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Lockz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockz)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/91 "2003-08-13T23:01:16Z")

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Yeah, we finally got our results yesterday, and things are back on track. Take a look!

[http://fff.fathom.org/pages/ShibbOleth/sophomore/Winter03.html](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/ShibbOleth/sophomore/Winter03.html)

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/92 "2003-08-14T07:35:53Z")

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I really wish I were better at talking creative smack, because I would…I really would.

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**Author:** ![Lockz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Lockz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockz)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/93 "2003-08-16T11:08:25Z")

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Just to let everyone know, parts of Ottawa are still without power, including my school which hosts my email account. Unless you update the web page with things, I won’t be able to follow along, and I won’t be able to Dip with people until they restart the servers.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/94 "2003-08-16T13:13:21Z")

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Thanks for the update, **Lockz**. I’ve had a couple of messages to you bounce, but they weren’t important and I’ve got your orders in. I’m still missing one set of orders, and have warned the offending party that without his orders I will have to NMR.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/95 "2003-08-17T00:52:46Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by Lockz \*  
> \*\*Just to let everyone know, parts of Ottawa are still without power, including my school which hosts my email account. Unless you update the web page with things, I won’t be able to follow along, and I won’t be able to Dip with people until they restart the servers. \*\*

I do have one question on your orders, and your emails keep bouncing with error message:

> [@](#):
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> Message from [yahoo.com](http://yahoo.com).  
> Unable to deliver message to the following address(es).
> 
> \<your email address\>:  
> Sorry, I wasn’t able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1)  
> I’m not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.

I stripped your email addy out to keep it from the spiders

Anyway, try to email me with an alternate address, so that I can ask you a question.

- Shibb

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/96 "2003-08-17T01:33:21Z")

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I’m up for some trash talking.

The vast legions of Portugal will crush you like little children. Prepare for annhilation.

That is all.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/97 "2003-08-17T14:59:50Z")

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[Updated webpage for Spring 1904](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/ShibbOleth/sophomore/Spring04.html)

Adjustments needed:

Italian A Burgundy can retreat to Marseilles or Gascony or Paris or Ruhr or OTB.

German A Moscow can retreat to St Petersburg or Livonia or OTB.

Orders resolved:  
Austria:  
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Serbia  
F Eastern Mediterranean - Aegean Sea (_Fails_)  
A Galicia - Rumania (_Fails_)  
A Trieste - Serbia

England:  
A Brest Supports A Wales - Picardy  
F Denmark - Skagerrak  
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea  
F English Channel Convoys A Wales - Picardy  
F London - North Sea (_Bounce_)  
A Wales - Picardy

France:  
F Portugal - Spain(sc) (_Fails_)

Germany:  
A Belgium Supports A Munich - Burgundy  
A Holland Supports A Belgium  
F Kiel - Helgoland Bight  
A Livonia - Warsaw  
A Moscow - Sevastopol (_Dislodged_)  
A Munich - Burgundy  
F Norway - North Sea (_Bounce_)  
F Sweden - Denmark

Italy:  
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea  
A Albania Supports F Ionian Sea - Greece  
A Burgundy Hold (_Dislodged_)  
F Ionian Sea - Greece  
F Spain(sc) Hold  
A Venice - Tyrolia

Russia:  
F Sevastopol Supports A Galicia - Rumania (_Cut_)  
A Ukraine Supports A Warsaw - Moscow  
A Warsaw - Moscow

Turkey:  
F Aegean Sea Supports F Greece (_Cut_)  
F Black Sea - Constantinople  
A Bulgaria Supports A Serbia - Rumania  
A Constantinople - Smyrna  
F Greece Supports F Aegean Sea (_Disbanded_)  
A Serbia - Rumania  
Note, I need the retreats ASAP. Fall orders are due on Tuesday, 19 August.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/98 "2003-08-18T13:22:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Lemur866 \*  
> \*\*Just so you know, “Game Press” on your game page gives a 404. I want my Game Press, dammit! I mean, how else can we do some public chatting and trash-talking? If only there were a place for people to post their messages…some sort of “board” perhaps…I’m just blue-skying here, people… \*\*

I don’t get a 404 on that. Are you sure? Also note that if you want press, then write some. I can’t just make it up. Or I could, but it wouldn’t be very sporting.

**Omniscient** , I think I still need a retreat from you.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/99 "2003-08-18T19:48:22Z")

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The German army sneaks happily back to St Petersburg, while the Italian Army withdraws to Marseilles. I’m certain that a lot of mirth ensues.

Don’t forget that the Fall turn is due tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Lockz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Lockz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockz)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy-sophomore/184693/100 "2003-08-18T22:37:37Z")

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My main email address is back up, so Dip away!

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