# Diplomacy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 5, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132 "2018-08-05T15:38:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/41 "2018-08-10T20:08:31Z")

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I can only do one game at a time, given my work and family schedules. A 48-hour turn would probably be better for me, but I’ll give it a go either way.

I fully expect to be the first player chased off the board. But if I have some fun while learning the game, I’m good.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/42 "2018-08-10T20:30:32Z")

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> [@Panther\_Modern](#):
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> The next game will probably be 48-hour turns.
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> Now, I can never play too many Diplomacy games. I’m willing to start a separate, 48-hour game if enough people are interested.
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> **Please quote this line if you want this. If we get seven more people, I will make the game.**

I played this a few times back in University, and could be up for a game. I think the 48 hour time would work better, so let me know when this gets going!

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/43 "2018-08-10T20:38:54Z")

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People who want to play the 48-hour game:

1. Panther Modern
2. Hoartius
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/44 "2018-08-11T00:56:01Z")

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I’m in the middle of a move. This is planning ahead, but I’m down for a 48 hour game in September. Or 24 for that matter.

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/45 "2018-08-11T04:39:20Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I’m in the middle of a move. This is planning ahead, but I’m down for a 48 hour game in September. Or 24 for that matter.

Good to know. Check back next month, and we’ll see where we’re at.

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/46 "2018-08-12T15:22:42Z")

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People who want to play the 48-hour game:

1. Panther Modern
2. Hoartius
3. Defensive Indifference
4. Oredigger77
5. 
6. 
7.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/47 "2018-08-12T16:29:22Z")

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**Panther Modern** , I appreciate your persistence in getting a game going. Hopefully the 48 hour version will attract more players.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/48 "2018-08-12T20:53:56Z")

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> [@Panther\_Modern](#):
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> I don’t have the patience for one move per week. I could do two- to three-day intervals, but a week is too long.

Relax, I said one Dip _year_ per week. You know, Spring 1901, retreats, Fall 1901, retreats, Winter 1901 builds and removals, per week.

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/49 "2018-08-13T02:23:02Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Relax, I said one Dip _year_ per week. You know, Spring 1901, retreats, Fall 1901, retreats, Winter 1901 builds and removals, per week.

So, one phase per week? That’s literally the same thing lol.

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/50 "2018-08-13T02:25:04Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> **Panther Modern** , I appreciate your persistence in getting a game going. Hopefully the 48 hour version will attract more players.

Thanks. It seems like the current game might not happen. We’re stuck at five players, and that hasn’t changed in several days.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/51 "2018-08-13T02:37:06Z")

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> [@Panther\_Modern](#):
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> Not sure what you mean when you say “when it’s not disruptive.”
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> Do you mean delaying your builds? If you end the build phase with 6 SC and 5 units but don’t build anything and end the following year with 7 SC and 5 units, you get two builds.
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> Regarding mistakes: If you make a move early in the day and want to change it later, you can. The phase doesn’t end until everyone submits their orders and hits “ready.”\*\*

Not sure where the disconnect is. In PBE games you have a deadline and a GM who manually resolves the moves and sends out an update. This means there’s an effective grace period in most cases. You miss the 12PM deadline for moves, but remember to do it at 1PM or 5PM, the GM can use judgment to accept those late orders so long as you haven’t seen anyone else’s orders. Similarly if a GM doesn’t receive orders from a particular player who is normally reliable, he can send out a message as a reminder and tell the rest of the group what’s going on. This is a nice bit of flexibility and human discretion for IRL issues that pop up.

In this webDip game, with no impartial GM and the lack of an app/reminders it seems like it’s close to a 100% likelihood that someone is going to forget to submit orders at a critical time.

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/52 "2018-08-13T03:44:26Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> In this webDip game, with no impartial GM and the lack of an app/reminders it seems like it’s close to a 100% likelihood that someone is going to forget to submit orders at a critical time.

That is likely to happen. It will be the player’s responsibility to check the website for any developments in the game. To avoid that, I’m suggesting people post in here with reminders to make a move. The lack of notifications from those websites are out of my hands.

The 48-hour period seems like a good amount of time for people to make a move without missing a beat.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/53 "2018-08-13T15:33:12Z")

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Given the lack of additional players for the current game in queue, sign me up for the 48 hour game, please.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/54 "2018-08-13T16:22:22Z")

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Sign me up for the 48 Hour game if there’s room.

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/55 "2018-08-14T00:50:54Z")

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People who want to play the 48-hour game:

1. Panther Modern
2. Hoartius
3. Defensive Indifference
4. Oredigger77
5. garygn
6. Boozahol Squid, P.I.
7. 

Need one more!

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/56 "2018-08-14T01:18:05Z")

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OK, y’all. I have made the longer game. 48-hour deadlines for turns.

Game Name: [Straight Dope Long](https://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=227242)  
Password: **sdmb** OR **smdb** (Might have messed up the password, so try these two).

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/57 "2018-08-14T01:58:14Z")

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> [@Panther\_Modern](#):
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> OK, y’all. I have made the longer game. 48-hour deadlines for turns.
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> Game Name: [Straight Dope Long](https://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=227242)  
> Password: **sdmb** OR **smdb** (Might have messed up the password, so try these two).

All right, I’m in. The password is **smdb**.

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/58 "2018-08-14T02:19:33Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> All right, I’m in. The password is **smdb**.

Great. Thanks for checking.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/59 "2018-08-14T03:34:31Z")

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I don’t think that other one is ever going to get off the ground, so I signed up for the slow game.

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**Author:** ![Panther\_Modern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Panther\_Modern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panther_Modern)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diplomacy/819132/60 "2018-08-14T04:50:38Z")

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Yeah, I think more people will feel inclined to play now that turns are longer.

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