# Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency Season 2 - discussion(open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 15, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950 "2017-10-15T16:58:12Z")
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#### Post date: [December 3, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/61 "2017-12-03T03:21:35Z")

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I so love this show. Dirk got called a Hoopy Frood I believe this episode.

Also like the fact Farah’s jacket has a 42 on it.

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### Author: ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/62 "2017-12-03T03:37:12Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Things are beginning to come into focus, but I still don’t quite get the history of how Windemere came to be.

Traumatized by his mother killing his father with a pair of scissors, The Boy™, who can create things with his mind (see also: The Twilight Zone, et al) creates Windamere, starting I believe with the murals on the wall of their home. He gets turned in to Blackwing, who apparently keeps him on ice. At one point or another, Dirk was assigned as his caretaker. Dirk even considered him his best friend, despite the fact that the guy was in a coma.

So long story short, terror boy creates demi-plane to escape in. Sci fi plot #214.

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#### Post date: [December 3, 2017, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/63 "2017-12-03T06:12:18Z")

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If there is a season 3 I’m going to have to forget this series exists for two years just so i can binge it in one day.

To answer my previous question about all the Blackwing projects, there is a pictogram that keeps popping up that is supposedly them. Lemme see if I can google it.

[Here it is!](https://10deb7fbfece20ff53da-95da5b03499e7e5b086c55c243f676a1.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/455fbaef4354949363cb1f72cee817d9_xl.jpg). There are a whole lot of projects. Each project doesn’t necessarily have only one person in it. The question of whatever happened to the old leader of Blackwing (the one from last season) hasn’t been answered. Are we to assume idiot Boy killed him?

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#### Post date: [December 3, 2017, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/64 "2017-12-03T06:16:28Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> So long story short, terror boy creates demi-plane to escape in. Sci fi plot #214.

Otherwise known as the [reality warper](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityWarper).

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### Author: ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/65 "2017-12-04T14:39:57Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Traumatized by his mother killing his father with a pair of scissors, The Boy™, who can create things with his mind (see also: The Twilight Zone, et al) creates Windamere, starting I believe with the murals on the wall of their home. He gets turned in to Blackwing, who apparently keeps him on ice. At one point or another, Dirk was assigned as his caretaker. Dirk even considered him his best friend, despite the fact that the guy was in a coma.

But The Boy™ arrived on the boat from somewhere, right? That’s a mystery we’ve yet to hear a reasonable explanation for.

With only two episodes to finish the season they will have a lot to clean up. Susie and the Mage seemingly have the upper hand in each of their adopted worlds and our heroes are in dire straights. I really hope Hobbs is OK, I’ve missed him in the last few episodes.

Why was the truck taken to Windemeer? What an interesting execution method. I almost expect the angry queen/mother to say “Off with their heads!” Loved the “Hoopy frood” reference. Witchypoo’s friend in Blackwing is the toy (I forget her name) that Ken has uncovered, right? This is not Mr Priest’s first rodeo. What was in the cage? The Purple People Eater?

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#### Post date: [December 4, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/66 "2017-12-04T15:02:28Z")

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Is Sherlock dead?

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#### Post date: [December 4, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/67 "2017-12-04T15:07:11Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Is Sherlock dead?

I don’t think so, nothing definite yet.

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#### Post date: [December 4, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/68 "2017-12-04T15:09:04Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Is Sherlock dead?

All we know is that his car is in the quarry. I suspect he’s not dead, but is going to be used by the mage against Tina and Farrah.

BTW, great job Deputy Tina, being a real cop and helping the case. She’s moved on from her freaking out back at the station.

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#### Post date: [December 4, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/69 "2017-12-04T17:36:33Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> But The Boy™ arrived on the boat from somewhere, right? That’s a mystery we’ve yet to hear a reasonable explanation for.
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> With only two episodes to finish the season they will have a lot to clean up. Susie and the Mage seemingly have the upper hand in each of their adopted worlds and our heroes are in dire straights. I really hope Hobbs is OK, I’ve missed him in the last few episodes.
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> Why was the truck taken to Windemeer? What an interesting execution method. I almost expect the angry queen/mother to say “Off with their heads!” Loved the “Hoopy frood” reference. Witchypoo’s friend in Blackwing is the toy (I forget her name) that Ken has uncovered, right? This is not Mr Priest’s first rodeo. What was in the cage? The Purple People Eater?

Did The Boy arrive on the boat, or is the boat The Boy? The couple who had discovered the boat - were they the Cardinas? I thought the boat appeared during the '67, which was when The Cardinas disappeared.

“Mona” is the shapeshifter.

I’m reasonably sure the Purple People Eater is in the crate.

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#### Post date: [December 5, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/70 "2017-12-05T01:06:46Z")

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Bart and Prince Purple Hair broke out of jail and are presumably in Westmeer,no? They didn’t appear in this last episode.

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#### Post date: [December 5, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/71 "2017-12-05T05:16:17Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Did The Boy arrive on the boat, or **is the boat The Boy?** The couple who had discovered the boat - were they the Cardinas? I thought the boat appeared during the '67, which was when The Cardinas disappeared.
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> “Mona” is the shapeshifter.
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> I’m reasonably sure the Purple People Eater is in the crate.

Wouldn’t it be crazy if The Boy actually turns out to be the boat? Like, Amanda ports it to Wendimoor where it crushes the evil mage/Susan, leading to a happy ever after?

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#### Post date: [December 10, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/72 "2017-12-10T03:26:13Z")

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Episode 9 “Don’t Panic” I love these little touches.

I love when a small army of evil knights start backing away from one woman with a chainsaw.

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#### Post date: [December 10, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/73 "2017-12-10T13:40:31Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Episode 9 “Don’t Panic” I love these little touches.
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> I love when a small army of evil knights start backing away from one woman with a chainsaw.

As much as I hate “fix everything” buttons, I hope The Boy can fix everything. It rather sucks that everyone in Wendimore is dead.

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#### Post date: [December 10, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/74 "2017-12-10T14:55:45Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> As much as I hate “fix everything” buttons, I hope The Boy can fix everything. It rather sucks that everyone in Wendimore is dead.

I’m pretty sure that is going to happen and I generally don’t like it myself but this time it kind of works at least. Similar to “The _Doctor Dances_” from the first season of the new Doctor Who. That is the only time I didn’t mind the big reset. I liked the little reset in Galaxy Quest, but that only fixed 13 seconds.

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#### Post date: [December 11, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/75 "2017-12-11T18:39:02Z")

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Oh Bart, you _tried_ to stop killing people.

Has Priest caught one, single person?

Is Ken always going to end up working for the bad guys?

Idiot Boy is dangerously hilarious.

Can’t wait to see how this all works out. Will the boy reset Windemore? Will killing Suzie return her son and husband back to normal? Will Amanda ever stop being annoying to me? Stay tuned.

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#### Post date: [December 11, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/76 "2017-12-11T19:11:57Z")

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I think Ken is going to change the way Blackwing operates and make it be a better place.  
Amanda is annoying to you? I like that character a lot.

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#### Post date: [December 11, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/77 "2017-12-11T21:08:32Z")

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Amanda’s punk rock lite personality grates. The writers should know that, just because she sometimes gives the finger to an annoyance, doesn’t mean she’s punk.

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Oh and also, meant to say about Ken and Blackwing-- do you think the old leader from last season, who also seemed to want to help the “projects” will show up again and hook up with Ken?

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#### Post date: [December 11, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/79 "2017-12-11T22:14:09Z")

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I thought Friedkin killed the old leader.

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#### Post date: [December 11, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-season-2-discussion-open-spoilers/798950/80 "2017-12-11T22:19:52Z")

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I just did some digging, Col. Scott Riggins was the old leader.

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> [Riggins was last seen](http://dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-2016.wikia.com/wiki/Scott_Riggins) visiting an unconscious Dirk Gently in the hospital in the finale of Season 1. With the noticeable absence of his military fatigues, and the fact that his military superiors had appointed Friedkin as the new head of Blackwing, it has been speculated that he is no longer affiliated with secret government program at the end of Season 1.

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