Disabuse me of my romantic notions about being a teacher

Oh, how true this is. There are those times, when a student just…gets it. After struggling for days/weeks/all semester. The student whose face lights up in class one day as everything clicks for them. It’s so frigging wonderful to see, and it makes my heart sing when it happens.

I’ve had students contact me months or years after their class with me ended to tell me that what they learned in my class made a huge difference in their lives. It’s those moments that remind me of the amazing potential in every person.

It’s 8 at night right now, and my wife is downstairs correcting papers and planning for tomorrow. She got home at about 4:30 after a few meetings. She got to work at about 7:30 this morning. Thursday, she’ll be there straight from 7:30 AM until 9 PM due to open house, parent meetings, etc.

Summer vacation usually includes a few full days every week of group curriculum work, meetings, etc.

But hey, she loves her job for some reason… I know it’s not the crappy pay or the threat of being fired EVERY summer due to budget cuts. Today it was an awesome project that one girl handed in that made her day.

And me, I’m waiting for one of the dinosaur art teachers to retire so I can hopefully get their job.

Do you think a teacher should make the same as a person with an MBA?

I know about a dozen people that teach or are counselors in the suburban Chicago area. To a person they all are well paid ($40,000 to start, the one counselor makes over $100k) and think their job is cushy. “This is the easier job ever.” Anecdotes aren’t data and all, I know. There is some complaining about bureaucracy, but other than that, and the one that teaches problem children, they all think their job is very easy. I’m aware that the Chicago area pays much more than a lot of other areas, just saying that the notion that you have to eat dirt and turn tricks on the side isn’t set in stone.

Getting a teaching certificate in Texas is easier than you would believe. There are many alternative certification programs that you can participate in. iTeachtexas is a program that is completely online. You get six months to finish the course, with a minimum of 10 days in each lesson (6 lessons total). The lessons are easy enough you can sit down and finish in 1-4 hours. I always did one lesson on the last day of the 10 days, so I could get the next one the following day and complete it. I would have a 2 and half week break in between having available lessons. The TEXES test can be difficult, I managed to pass on my first try, but it was very close. I would highly recommend buying a study guide online, in addition to the practice study test they include on the website.

If you decide to teach, you might want to go to a local school district and see what advice they can give you on getting started. I have heard (but haven’t confirmed) some districts have on site certification training which gives you a much better chance of being hired as a teacher in that district.

Hope you figure out what works for you.

To the OP:

Nope, sorry. Can’t help you. I love teaching and can’t see myself doing anything else (Well, I can, but it involves hitting the Mega-Millions for a load first). The rewards make all the trouble worthwhile.

YMMV.

I love teaching. It gives me purpose and motivation and validation. I could list for you 10 totally selfish reasons why teaching is the best job ever, but you didn’t ask for that. Here are some of the negatives (for reference, I teach AP English Language and AP Macroeconomics and coach Academic Decathlon at an “urban” school where about 70% of the kids are on Free or Reduced lunch. YMMV tremendously at different schools. I am also in TX, in Dallas)

Negatives about teaching:
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[li]For a job where you talk all day, it’s tremendously lonely. You interact with all these people whom you really really care about and they never see you at all–they see the teacher.[/li][li]You fail a lot, and your failures matter. I transposed 2 grades once, and got a student whipped. There are people that hate me. Worse, there are people that don’t even remember me because I made no impression on them at all–all they remember about the year they were in my classroom is a blanket of pain and frustration that I was unable to relieve or assuage. They certainly didn’t learn anything from me.[/li][li]It hurts. I’ve had to bail a star pupil with a great future out of jail, I’ve had a student call me at 3 in the morning to tell me another student had been raped that night and what should they do, I’ve been humiliated by students (not often), and I’ve watched any number of them leave my life without even a goodbye–which is what they are supposed to do, but when it’s a kid you’ve agonized over and fought for, it still hurts.[/li][li]It takes over your life. The first year is a very steep learning curve. Any spouse of a first year teacher deserves a prize, because it’s all you can think about, it takes up all your time and emotional energy, and leaves you drained and needy. You go to parties and find the only other teacher in the room to talk shop with because it’s all you can talk about.[/li][li]It shrinks your world. A school is a very small place, a little artificial world constructed to give kids a safe place to grow up. When you live in that world, you lose perspective. The dramas and the injustices swell to monumental importance because you can’t see past the fact that they only matter in this little tiny time and place.[/li][li]Being the smartest person in the room warps your personality. This is not a little concern. Teachers get used to having an audience and it can adversely affect your relationships.[/li][li]Your life is ridiculously tightly scheduled. Yes, there are summer and winter and spring breaks, but between mid-August and June, you live by a bell–25 minute lunches are the norm, and you don’t have the simple freedom to go pee when you need to. Missing 2 hours of work to see a doctor or run a time-sensitive errand becomes the Invasion of Normandy when you have to schedule a sub and put together materials for them to use–and then you have to fix the mess they make when you get back.[/li][/ul]
Here are a few things that are more neutral. I don’t mind them, but I see that some would:
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[li]It’s very high pressure. You are the boss all the time. You are making judgment calls all day long, and in 15 minutes you may literally have to decide 1) if Johnny REALLY has a bathroom emergency 2) if Suzie’s story about the bruise makes sense or do you need to call CPS 3) How to deal with having 3 more students than you do worksheets and 4) what to do about they fact that Frank just called you a dickweed under his breath. This never lets up.[/li][li]It’s very repetitive. I can read whole chunks of Huckleberry Finn without hearing a word of it. I’ve explained what a prepositional phrase is so many times that I get thrown off if they ask the expected questions in a slightly unusual order. I can’t tell you how many bad essays I’ve read, or how monotonous reading vocabulary sentences gets.[/li][li]Teachers are weird people. Sometimes very weird. You will have strange coworkers.[/li][/ul]
Anyway, I really do love teaching, and if you have any questions specifically about TX, or even alternative certification in TX, just ask.

<sigh> Dude, NO ONE IS SAYING THAT. Most teachers I know, including myself, of all levels, recognize the things about our job that don’t suck. Just like most people who work AT ALL recognize the things about their jobs that don’t suck.

But I have noticed that 1) when teachers (of all levels) complain about anything to do with their job, the way most people will, they are told to STFU because their jobs are so easy that they should never complain about anything ever, and 2) it seems that only teachers (of any level) have to continuously defend themselves against this assumption that they never ever do any work of any significance whatsoever.

Why not? Similar education times, i.e. first post-bachelors degree. Seriously, I would pay generally higher salaries and treating teachers with respect due to professionals doing their job.

Regarding the administrative BS that plagues teaching (as it does in any profession), here is my favorite example:

The last year I was teaching elementary, some District Office Guru realized we needed to be teaching an hour of ELD every day since we had such a large population of language learners. Our district was actually in violation by not having that instruction part of the regular teaching day. Rather than integrating it into language arts (as it is done now with state-approved curriculum designed for that very purpose), we were brought a separate curriculum and told to cut an hour of other daily instruction in order to squeeze this in. This District Guru–who obviously had not seen the inside of a classroom in a long, long time–had actually created a sample schedule explaining how doable this was. That schedule looked something like this:

8:00-10:40 Reading/Spelling/Language Arts/Writing
10:40-11:00 Recess
11:00-12:30 Math
12:30-1:15 Lunch
1:15-2:15 ELD
2:15-2:40 PE/Art/Music/Science/Social Studies

That’s right. Twenty-five minutes each day for five subjects. This was no typo–District Guru actually read over the schedule with us, and read that part of the schedule with a straight face. She had obviously lost her professional mind–but worse, she (as a District Guru) expected us to Do As She Said.

A more minor, but more typical, example:
One principal demanded we all had our daily lesson objectives and standards on the white board. Whatever, I can play, even though I find the practice redundant to my instruction (and the text, which has the objectives and standards written into every lesson). Objectives typically read like this: “All students will add positive and negative integers.” This principal then pulled me aside and made a point that objectives need to start with a verb, and that the “students” part is implied and should be left out. What? What the…oh, fine, whatever, leave me alone. My objective read “Add and subtract positive and negative integers” and the like for the next few years–until we got a new principal. He walked in randomly to observe, and pulled me aside later saying all was great except my objectives need a specific audience: I must start with “All students will…” You have to be kidding. I felt like I was messing up the cover sheet to my TPS reports.

But, all that said, this past Back to School Nimght reminded me why I love, love what I do.

I gave my presentation, and toward the end, noticed a former student (it’s been at least 8 years since she left my classroom) in the audience. I later realized–she had no sibling in my class this year. She just wanted to hang out with me while her parents went to her younger sister’s presentation (in another grade and another class). She came up to me after, just talking about her life. With her was a familiar face–a girl who had been a very troubled 8th grader when I had her (in the class from hell) six years ago. She talked about how she still had the poem I’d given that class for Christmas on her wall, and how much she’d liked having me. That class nearly broke me–it was full of some of the worst of the worst kids our school had–but I refused to quit on them the way they assumed I would. I had an amazing talk with this girl, and realized how as awful as that had been, I had, indeed, made an impact on at least one of those kiddos. She talked about other students from that class who, stunningly, apparently also remember me and talk about me. I was floored, nearly to the point of tears.

As the evening progressed, other adult former students–some I hadn’t seen in a decade, gulp!–came by and visited and hugged me. I was proud to see some were in college; the first in their families ever to go. It was a trip seeing them all “grown up,” and it was just amazing to see how all that energy I pour into my classroom every year does indeed make a long-term difference, at least with some.

It’s an amazing, exhausting, soul-sucking job that tends to be criticized more than praised…but there is no way I would do anything else. I love what I do. I love what I do.

Well, the thing I don’t understand about teaching in several states is that someone could go get a PhD in whatever subject (I’m a scientist, so I’m thinking more along those lines in this example), spend some time as a post-doc, get into a tenure-track position, get tenured, and spend the next 40 years in academia where your focus might be research instead of teaching. But apparently you can’t try to teach a high school science class in your subject without spending an additional two years in school. How in the world is that attractive?

Because there’s a lot more to teaching than knowing an academic subject? And that a lot of college teaching suffers from that?

To expand on this-- I always assumed I’d be an English teacher. It wasn’t even a decision. It wasn’t my favorite subject in school–history was–but English is what I would teach. I spent my whole life training to be an English teacher. My content knowledge in English is very, very good, and I am a very good English teacher.

I started teaching economics because 1) I was frustrated by the way it was given to a series of coaches, all of whom knew nothing and blew it off and 2) I happened to have a composite Social Studies certification that nominally qualified me. I knew bupkis about econ when I started–one crappy class in college, a tendency to read the business section of the paper, and a summer conference were all I had. The first year I read 4 different college textbooks every day to learn enough to get through that day. There were many, many times when I had to say 'I know it works like that but I don’t understand why. Let me get back to you". Even now, my third year in, I know Econ 101 very well but have no clue about anything beyond that.

And you know what? My students don’t think I am a better English teacher than Econ teacher (and I have almost all of them for both). In fact, when compared to the national pass rate for the AP tests, I look like a much better economics teacher than I am an English teacher. My vastly different levels of knowledge about the two subjects don’t appear to make any difference at all.

Now, this isn’t to say you don’t have to know the subject at all–I worked my ass off to learn basic economics backwards and forwards. But it seems like you hit diminishing returns pretty quickly on knowing the content much beyond the level covered in the course, at least for economics. It really surprised me, frankly.

You forgot to mention being virtually unfireable once tenure is reached.

I am not a K-12 teacher and never have been. I am a research scientist who has worked in industry and just now am a college professor. My husband is also a higher up in the high tech arena. So I do have a basis of comparison.

Are teachers the hardest working professionals in the world? No. Neither am I. But they are a far cry from the description you provided of summers off and a cushy 9-3 life. Your extreme was not accurate and I was refuting it.

Judging from what my sister tells me, this seems like a pretty accurate portrayal, at least if you work in an inner-city school. The place she works isn’t exactly inner-city but it does have many of the characteristics you’d expect to find in an inner-city school - underfunded, parents who don’t give a shit, located in a high poverty, high crime area. Granted she’s never had anyone pull a knife in class, but she teaches first grade.
And, again going from what she’s told me, the behind the scenes politicking seems dead on.

My friends complain most about the parents. In every room there are several parents convinced that their child is a unique snowflake - and that the teacher is their private tutor ready to craft instruction specifically for them. Of course, their snowflake is deserving of high grades - even when they goofed off, barely passed tests, and turned in a ten page paper eight pages long. Few of my teacher friends list their phone numbers, because parents call them at eleven at night to ask why their kid only got a B.

That’s somewhat of a myth, as recent events in Boulder and elsewhere have proven. A person, even one at a traditional four-year university who has what’s considered “real” tenure (as opposed to the laughably pathetic “tenure” we have at the community college level), can have their tenure revoked. And it’s relatively easy not to get tenure in the first place.

But thanks once again for illustrating that no matter what, someone will always continue to believe that teachers of any level have no valid reasons to complain about any aspect of their jobs at any time.

To be fair, nobody pulled a knife in The Wire.

It was a razor blade.

So why aren’t you a teacher?

This is the perspective of a university-level lecturer, who has had no formal training in education:

It can be really, really disheartening. I love my subject, I really do. I don’t LOVE teaching, but I have enough enthusiasm for WHAT I’m teaching that I enjoy getting to share this stuff with others. So I put (large chunks of) my heart and soul into it, with not a ton of return.

It’s not to say that I don’t have smart students, or nice students. I do. But a lot of them really don’t care. Sometimes I feel like I’m pouring my energy down a bottomless well.

I love what I’m studying and I like the life that comes with it, including teaching. It can be fun. But that’s the main downside, as I see it.