# Disagreements

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 4, 2003, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445 "2003-04-04T13:49:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lynn73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@lynn73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lynn73)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/1 "2003-04-04T13:49:53Z")

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I wish someone could help me to understand this board because I really don’t understand. People come here, get asked questions, and then get pitted because people don’t like their honest answers. What’s going on? Is everyone so insecure that unless everyone that comes in agrees with them, they can’t stand it or what? You can make of this whatever you wish, but I read **Jersey’s** post where she answered the question put to her and I saw nothing wrong in her answer. Yet, in response, I’ve seen all kinds of vile name calling and demands for apologies and whatever in response to her. Is this the way mature adults act when they have disagreements?

You can shout me down or make whatever insults you like, but I see no respect here for differences of opinion. No mature discussions and no attitude of “let’s agree to disagree on this and move on to something else.” What gives? All the hateful spueing isn’t coming from the conservative Christians on the board, it’s coming from those who can’t stand to hear an opposing viewpoint.

If you don’t want honest answers to questions you pose to people, then quit asking them. If you don’t like the answers you get, show some maturity and stop resorting to foul language and name calling. That’s my opinion. I’m sorry but many of you remind me of a bunch of little kids throwing hissy fits. No offense intended but that’s how I see it. Get real and accept the fact that everyone has their own opinions about things and it’s not always going to agree with yours. People can disagree in a non threatening, nice way. I’ve been on boards where they do it.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/2 "2003-04-04T13:58:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by His4ever \*  
> \*\*People come here, get asked questions, and then get pitted because people don’t like their honest answers.
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> If you don’t want honest answers to questions you pose to people, then quit asking them. I’m sorry but many of you remind me of a bunch of little kids throwing hissy fits. \*\*

I don’t know if you are being disingenuous, or if you just do not have the capacity to understand what has been going on thus far.

Jersey’s was not an honest answer. It was one rife with condemnation and personal criticism.

When taken to task for it, she was smarmy and smug. When Joe\_Cool entered the fray, it was more vitriol in support of his wife, right or **wrong**.

Then you joined in with your hair shirt and the martyrdom again.

You say there are other boards which live up to your standards. Why are you not there if this board is not to your liking?

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**Author:** ![carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrot)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/3 "2003-04-04T14:05:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by His4ever \*  
> **hateful spueing isn’t coming from the conservative Christians on the board,**

Which one is the commandment that says “Thou shalt not lie”?

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/4 "2003-04-04T14:09:14Z")

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Ya know, when Lynn locks a thread it doesn’t mean go ahead and open another to continue bashing the topic.

Idiot.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/5 "2003-04-04T14:12:16Z")

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For someone who stormed off and left, she sure posts alot.

Also repeating a lie over and over again doesn’t **actually** make it true. It just makes you annoying. Also opening a thread on the same basic issue as a just closed one makes you something else as well. I think we all know what that word is.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![S.Mussberger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@S.Mussberger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/S.Mussberger)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/6 "2003-04-04T14:17:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by His4ever \*  
> \*\* All the hateful spueing isn’t coming from the conservative Christians on the board, it’s coming from those who can’t stand to hear an opposing viewpoint.  
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Conservative Christians, not hateful nor spewing. All of that coming from the other side. Gottcha.

Geez, I just wish someone had told me that earlier, you know. Here I was reading the board and I had it compleeeeeetely the other way around. Glad you got me straight on that one.

I bet those bastards would throw their hateful spewing words at my army of invisible green friends riding on rollerblades made out of poptarts if they only could see them. Damn now I’ve told them about them haven’t I? Damn damn damn, got to run now….

_putting tinfoil hat on and running out the door_

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/7 "2003-04-04T14:22:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diane \*  
> \*\*Ya know, when Lynn locks a thread it doesn’t mean go ahead and open another to continue bashing the topic.  
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> \*Originally posted by elf6c \*  
> \*\* Also opening a thread on the same basic issue as a just closed one makes you something else as well. I think we all know what that word is. \*\*

You two need to back off on those claims. What you are saying might be valid if it was the same poster opening another thread, but in this case it clearly isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/8 "2003-04-04T14:23:37Z")

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And, to save future nitpicking, it’s a different topic as well.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/9 "2003-04-04T14:25:22Z")

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> You two need to back off on those claims. What you are saying might be valid if it was the same poster opening another thread, but in this case it clearly isn’t.

Uh no, really. I am pretty certain when Lynn closes a thread she means for it to **stop** regardless of who opens another one.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/10 "2003-04-04T14:26:30Z")

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> And, to save future nitpicking, it’s a different topic as well.

Different in what way?

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**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/11 "2003-04-04T14:28:45Z")

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Well, I see **Joe\_Cool** was man enough to post an apology for his actions.

I’m still looking for **Kalhoun** ’s apology for calling his wife garbage and a cunt.

I’ll probably be looking for a while.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/12 "2003-04-04T14:29:18Z")

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Fine. Channel **Lynn**.

Can I play? Can I pretend to be **Ed**?

How’s it a different topic? Because it asks a specific question:

“I wish someone could help me to understand this board because I really don’t understand. People come here, get asked questions, and then get pitted because people don’t like their honest answers.”

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/13 "2003-04-04T14:29:39Z")

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You get a lot of people butting heads because on one side you’ve got people with strong opinions due to matters of faith, and on the other side, people with strong opinions due to proven facts. Neither side is inherently better or more correct, but they both feel strongly about their stance on issues. They are also overwhelminly resistant to arguments from the other side, because the other side isn’t arguing from faith or fact, whichever is most important to the defender.

Hope that made sense.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/14 "2003-04-04T14:30:00Z")

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You’re drooling again Ace.

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**Author:** ![carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrot)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/15 "2003-04-04T14:34:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \*  
> **Well, I see Joe\_Cool was man enough to post an apology for his actions.**

Apology, was it? Oh. I thought it was just a self-serving load of horseshit. But, since you say it was an apology…

**Ace** , if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, calling it foie gras doesn’t make a lick of difference.

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> **I’m still looking for Kalhoun’s apology for calling his wife garbage and a cunt.**

But that was just **Kalhoun** ’s honest opinion! No offense intended!

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/16 "2003-04-04T14:43:57Z")

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No, no, Diane, this is a different topic, really. That thread was the “Jersey Diamond/Joe Cool Flamefest” and this one will be the “His4Ever Flamefest”. Different, see? 😃

Link to the other thread referenced in the OP, since the OP didn’t bother, just in case anybody cares, which I doubt.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174685&pagenumber=5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174685&pagenumber=5)

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/17 "2003-04-04T14:48:01Z")

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> Can I pretend to be Ed?

Sure, if you enjoy dressing in big white old lady underpants, fishnet stockings, dirty wifebeater tanks, and walk around scratching your ball sack.

:eek: Don’t hurt me Ed.

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**Author:** ![carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrot)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/18 "2003-04-04T14:49:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diane \*  
> **Sure, if you enjoy dressing in big white old lady underpants, fishnet stockings, dirty wifebeater tanks, and walk around scratching your ball sack.**

See, now you’re just being silly.

Everyone knows **Ed** prefers thongs.

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/19 "2003-04-04T14:53:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by His4ever \*  
> \*\*I wish someone could help me to understand this board because I really don’t understand. People come here, get asked questions, and then get pitted because people don’t like their honest answers. \*\*

Is it possible that _you_ could ever be wrong about something? Is that a remote possibility?

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> but I see no respect here for differences of opinion.

Totally agree, but I’m looking at your condemning posts when I say that.

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> All the hateful spueing isn’t coming from the conservative Christians on the board, it’s coming from those who can’t stand to hear an opposing viewpoint.

That’s not true, here’s the thing: Just because you won’t admit you are spewing hatred does not mean you **aren’t**.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disagreements/166445/20 "2003-04-04T14:56:28Z")

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> If you don’t want honest answers to questions you pose to people, then quit asking them. If you don’t like the answers you get, show some maturity and stop resorting to foul language and name calling. That’s my opinion. I’m sorry but many of you remind me of a bunch of little kids throwing hissy fits. No offense intended but that’s how I see it. Get real and accept the fact that everyone has their own opinions about things and it’s not always going to agree with yours. People can disagree in a non threatening, nice way.

You miss the poinjt of this board’s _raison d’etre_. The SDMB is a froum for debate and the eradication of ignorance where a certain amount of give and take is expected and cites and evidence are required to back up assertions.

But you don’t do that. You makle unfounded assertions about gays, Mormons, Catholics, and so on, and then when challenged, you say, “This is what the Bible says and I won’t discuss it.” Your mind is utterly closed to any worldview save your own.

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