# Discrimination at CVS against Asians?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 18, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082 "2013-04-18T23:31:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/61 "2013-04-25T09:09:14Z")

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You’re calling that information printed on the envelope given to the customer a “production receipt” that’s not intended to be given to the customer?

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**Author:** ![David\_H\_Singanas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@David\_H\_Singanas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_H_Singanas)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/62 "2013-04-25T09:31:48Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> It’s racial privilege. Those who ARE members of the dominant social grouping (whether skin color, religion, orientation, gender or whatever) will NEVER have the same reactions to slurs that those who aren’t will. That’s why stuff like “she’s so thin-skinned…I’d never react that way to being called a honkey!” is such bullshit. There’s a HUGE difference between being called the n-word and being called a honkey in US society. There’s a huge difference between getting a receipt with “big-nose” on it and getting a receipt with “ching chong” on it from a US business. Privilege blinds, and that’s pretty obvious from what certain people are posting here.

“Racial privilege” by a “dominant social grouping” is a fact of life but it is still  
National Socialism and still straight from the NSDAP. Calling a Korean customer  
“Ching Chong Lee” is as wrong as calling a Texas hispanic a “Mexican” but we in  
Texas do this all the time. You are right but at the same time this is something that is very wrong. The Korean plaintiff’s attorney will or should make this point chrystal clear in his claim of $1 million for the plaintiff. I want CVS to pay for the humiliation and mental anquish suffered by this young Korean female customer. We are not living in National Socialist Germany.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/63 "2013-04-25T09:48:15Z")

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And we’ve been godwinized! At least, I think we have, maybe, perhaps, in that ramble just above.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/64 "2013-04-25T11:47:09Z")

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Do you know who else forced businesses to do his will?

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/65 "2013-04-25T11:54:25Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Do you know who else forced businesses to do his will?

Sam Walton?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/66 "2013-04-25T13:59:42Z")

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Jesus?

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/67 "2013-04-25T23:45:36Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You’re calling that information printed on the envelope given to the customer a “production receipt” that’s not intended to be given to the customer?

No I’m not calling it that. “Production Receipt” is printed on the receipt in the article listed in post #1.

What I did do was base an opinion on the idea that this wasn’t intended for the customer. I’ve never seen a receipt with this written on it so I could be wrong but that’s where my perspective is coming from.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/68 "2013-04-26T01:34:25Z")

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Sorry. Given your posts in this thread thus far, Magiver, I see no reason to accept that is, in fact, your perspective.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/69 "2013-04-26T02:58:44Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Sorry. Given your posts in this thread thus far, Magiver, I see no reason to accept that is, in fact, your perspective.

I said early on I didn’t think the employee intended for the receipt to be viewed by the customer. I assumed you had actually reviewed the cite made by the op. Clearly you didn’t or you would have known what was on the receipt. So since you can’t be bothered to read the material presented for discussion there’s really no point to anything you have to say. You’ve formed an opinion without looking at the facts.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/70 "2013-04-26T04:03:00Z")

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You’re mistaken. And anything else I would have to say to you on this topic would get a moderator warning. As it is, I don’t feel it’s worth my time, energy, or effort to continue the issue with you in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/71 "2013-04-26T04:17:27Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I said early on I didn’t think the employee intended for the receipt to be viewed by the customer.

So what? Since when does that get anyone off the hook? \*You don’t use fucking racial slurs to refer to your customers. \*No, not even behind their backs.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/72 "2013-04-26T13:44:17Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You’re mistaken.

I’m mistaken about what? That you didn’t know “Production Receipt” was printed on the receipt? Why did you ask me if I thought this was a production receipt and not just a receipt?

You didn’t look at the material presented by the op and now you’re all pissy about being called on it. You can’t even admit you were wrong and instead go on an emotional tirade.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/73 "2013-04-26T13:52:13Z")

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> [@colander](#):
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> So what? Since when does that get anyone off the hook? \*You don’t use fucking racial slurs to refer to your customers. \*No, not even behind their backs.

A person is entitled to their private thoughts whether it’s behind or in front of their backs. A racial slur can only exist if you say it.

Look at Monty in post 70. All balled up in emotional angst but still manages not to call me names even after admitting to such thoughts.

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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/74 "2013-04-26T15:27:38Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> A person is entitled to their private thoughts whether it’s behind or in front of their backs. A racial slur can only exist if you say it.

It can also exist if you type it into the computer so that it will show up on the receipts. Which is what happened.

> [@](#):
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> Look at Monty in post 70. All balled up in emotional angst but still manages not to call me names even after admitting to such thoughts.

I admire his restraint. You really are incredible.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/75 "2013-04-26T15:31:56Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Look at Monty in post 70. All balled up in emotional angst but still manages not to call me names even after admitting to such thoughts.

And yet, if he posted those unpleasant thoughts by accident, he’d still get a mod warning.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/76 "2013-04-26T16:01:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> And yet, if he posted those unpleasant thoughts by accident, he’d still get a mod warning.

Yes, but he wouldn’t be banned. The customer was not discriminated against in any way in the transaction. At most she was insulted. The store and the employee owe her a sincere apology.

Now if there is evidence that it was a deliberate act intended to insult the customer then she is still entitled to an apology from the store and I would expect them to fire the employee.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/77 "2013-04-26T16:10:20Z")

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> [@colander](#):
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> It can also exist if you type it into the computer so that it will show up on the receipts. Which is what happened.

Am I the only person who actually looked at the slip of paper? It wasn’t a purchase receipt. There are no costs on it. It was a “PRODUCTION RECEIPT”. It shows the pickup time and order number.

> [@colander](#):
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> I admire his restraint. You really are incredible.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Saraya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Saraya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saraya)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/78 "2013-04-26T16:13:51Z")

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> [@David\_H\_Singanas](#):
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> “Racial privilege” by a “dominant social grouping” is a fact of life but it is still  
> National Socialism and still straight from the NSDAP. Calling a Korean customer  
> “Ching Chong Lee” is as wrong as calling a Texas hispanic a “Mexican” but we in  
> Texas do this all the time. You are right but at the same time this is something that is very wrong. The Korean plaintiff’s attorney will or should make this point chrystal clear in his claim of $1 million for the plaintiff. I want CVS to pay for the humiliation and mental anquish suffered by this young Korean female customer. We are not living in National Socialist Germany.

WTF is a “Texas Hispanic”  
You’re either Mexican or American - no one gives a sh\*t about your race.  
Anyways, this thread just highlights how absurd the whole thing is getting.  
Who cares what he wrote, she should have just laughed, kept it to herself and if she really wanted to hurt them - take her business elsewhere.

For being such a pain in the butt and making a mountain out of a mole hill, I hope she gets nothing but public embarrassment.

And no CVS does not discriminate against Asians - they discriminate against whites, like most general public facing business do these days.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/79 "2013-04-26T16:25:01Z")

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“DEY TUK R JERBS! Durka derk!”

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discrimination-at-cvs-against-asians/656082/80 "2013-04-26T16:38:05Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> A person is entitled to their private thoughts whether it’s behind or in front of their backs. A racial slur can only exist if you say it. .

No, they aren’t. Racism is still wrong even if you don’t tell a soul. It’s only that we can’t punish racism that we don’t know about. We know this cashier was racist. Therefore he deserves to be punished.

You seem to be under the misapprehension that there is even the remotest doubt on whether the employee was wrong. There is none. There is only doubt on whether there is a legal case.

Not that you aren’t grasping at straws calling it a “production receipt” when said receipt was given to the customer. It ceases being a production receipt at that time, no matter what words are on it.

I’ve gotten plenty of production receipts in my time. It is not reasonable for the employee to assume that the customer had no chance of seeing it.

Not that it matters on that regard, either. He still was writing it for SOMEONE to read. So even by your own logic, the epithet was made.

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