# Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** israel-hamas-war\ **Created:** [November 5, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653 "2023-11-05T21:57:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 111
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2201 "2024-12-28T04:30:19Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Kamal Adwan was the last remaining Palestinian hospital in the north. It’s been a solid two or three weeks now since the last time you proclaimed that “the last hospital” had been shut down. They must be down to -8 hospitals at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2202 "2024-12-28T04:37:24Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > It’s been a solid two or three weeks now since the last time you proclaimed that “the last hospital” had been shut down. …if this were true: you would have quoted me saying it. It isn’t true though. Its another fucking lie from the genocide supporter. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2203 "2024-12-28T04:39:43Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > if this were true: you would have quoted me saying it. Which I did the last time you bemoaned the loss of the last hospital. And the time before that. And the time before that. And the time before that. Those posts are all still there, you know. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Its another fucking lie from the genocide supporter. That would be you. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2204 "2024-12-28T06:47:47Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Which I did the last time …nah. You didn’t. You _thought_ you did. But you only thought that because you are a fucking idiot. What you actually did was a keyword search and posted whatever it was that came up. You didn’t actually read any of the links. You just copied and pasted. And I went through each and every one and showed that you were either mistaken, had taken words out of context, or were just outright _lying_. As you are again here. If you could back up your claim you would have linked to it. But you can’t. Anyway: here’s the World Health Organization: > [@WHO](#): > > This morning’s raid on Kamal Adwan Hospital has put this last major health facility in North [#Gaza](https://x.com/hashtag/Gaza?src=hashtag_click) out of service. Initial reports indicate that some key departments were severely burnt and destroyed during the raid. > Unlike you: I can and _I have_ backed up everything I’ve said. It isn’t just the last hospital: it’s the last major health facility in the north. > [@Smapti](#): > > That would be you. Ammnesty International: > **[Amnesty International concludes Israel is committing genocide against...](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/)** > > Amnesty International’s research has found sufficient basis to conclude that Israel has committed and is continuing to commit genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip. > [@Ammnesty](#): > > “Amnesty International’s report demonstrates that Israel has carried out acts prohibited under the Genocide Convention, with the specific intent to destroy Palestinians in Gaza. These acts include killings, causing serious bodily or mental harm and deliberately inflicting on Palestinians in Gaza conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction. Month after month, Israel has treated Palestinians in Gaza as a subhuman group unworthy of human rights and dignity, demonstrating its intent to physically destroy them,” said Agnès Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International. Human Rights Watch: > **[Israel’s Crime of Extermination, Acts of Genocide in Gaza](https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/12/19/israels-crime-extermination-acts-genocide-gaza)** > > Israeli authorities have intentionally deprived Palestinian civilians in Gaza of adequate access to water since October 2023, most likely resulting in thousands of deaths and thus committing the crime against humanity of extermination and acts of... > [@HRW](#): > > - Israeli authorities have deliberately inflicted conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of part of the population in Gaza by intentionally depriving Palestinian civilians there of adequate access to water, most likely resulting in thousands of deaths. > - In doing so, Israeli authorities are responsible for the crime against humanity of extermination and for acts of genocide. The pattern of conduct, coupled with statements suggesting that some Israeli officials wished to destroy Palestinians in Gaza, may amount to the crime of genocide. The UN Special Comittee: [https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide](https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide) > [@UN](#): > > Israel’s warfare in Gaza is consistent with the characteristics of genocide, with mass civilian casualties and life-threatening conditions intentionally imposed on Palestinians there, the UN Special Committee to investigate Israeli practices\* said in a new [report](https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/thematic-reports/a79363-report-special-committee-investigate-israeli-practices-affecting) released today. _The Lemkin Institute_ for _Genocide_ Prevention > **[Statement on Why We Call the Israeli Attack on Gaza Genocide](https://www.lemkininstitute.com/statements-new-page/statement-on-why-we-call-the-israeli-attack-on-gaza-genocide)** > > December 29, 2023 > > The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, increasingly concerned about the deteriorating > humanitarian situation in the territory of the State of Palestine (including Gaza and the West > Bank), which has already resulted in the... > [@](#): > > Since 7 October, Israel has carried out a systematic campaign of mass killing against innocent Palestinian civilians, along with the destruction of civilian infrastructure, including housing, cultural and religious sites, and medical facilities. Its military operations have also led to disruptions in the supply of essential services, including water, electricity, and telecommunications. Additionally, the almost three-month siege that has been illegally imposed on the enclave, the effects of which are increased by persistent interruptions in the supply of humanitarian aid, only increases the suffering of the Palestinian population. > > The Lemkin Institute believes that Israel’s retaliation against Palestinians amounts not only to war crimes and crimes against humanity, but also to genocide, as also asserted by, among others, the former Director of the New York Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Craig Mokhiber. The International Court of Justice: > **[Israel must comply with ICJ ruling](https://amnesty.org.nz/israel-must-comply-with-icj-ruling/)** > > World leaders must do everything in their power to uphold their obligation to prevent genocide. > [@](#): > > The ruling issued by the ICJ ordered six provisional measures including for Israel to refrain from acts under the Genocide convention, prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to genocide, and take immediate and effective measures to ensure the provision of humanitarian assistance to civilians in Gaza. Crucially, the Court also ordered Israel to preserve evidence of genocide and to submit a report to the Court, within one month, of all measures taken in line with its order. > > “Today’s decision is an authoritative reminder of the crucial role of international law in preventing genocide and protecting all victims of atrocity crimes. It sends a clear message that the world will not stand by in silence as Israel pursues a ruthless military campaign to decimate the population of the Gaza Strip and unleash death, horror and suffering against Palestinians on an unprecedented scale,” said Agnès Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International. What Israel is doing in Gaza is a genocide, folks. People like Smapti will continue to deny it. But the evidence is overwhelming and compelling. All people like Smapti have left is _denial_. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2205 "2024-12-28T07:39:58Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Anyway: here’s the World Health Organization: > > > [@](#): > > > > This morning’s raid on Kamal Adwan Hospital has put this last major health facility in North [#Gaza](https://x.com/hashtag/Gaza?src=hashtag_click) out of service. So the next time you claim the last hospital has been shut down, we’ll be in agreement that you’re a liar. Got it. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Ammnesty International > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Human Rights Watch: > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > The UN Special Comittee: > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > _The Lemkin Institute_ for _Genocide_ Prevention Russian stooges. Every last one of them. Just like you. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > What Israel is doing in Gaza is a genocide What Israel is doing is _pest control_. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2206 "2024-12-28T07:52:08Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > What Israel is doing is _pest control_. That sounds much more dehumanizing in English than it does in the original German. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2207 "2024-12-28T08:01:41Z")
With defenders like Smapti, does Israel actually NEED enemies? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2208 "2024-12-28T08:42:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > What Israel is doing is _pest control_. …the mask’s off everyone.I actually think this qualifies as hate speech. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2209 "2024-12-28T09:14:43Z")
Anything but. Hamas isn’t an ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2210 "2024-12-28T09:25:20Z")
…the IDF are shooting _Palestinian children in the head._ Cite: from the Russian stooge organization, the New York Times. > **[Opinion | 65 Doctors, Nurses and Paramedics: What We Saw in Gaza](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/09/opinion/gaza-doctor-interviews.html)** > > “Nearly every day I was there, I saw a new young child who had been shot in the head or the chest, virtually all of whom went on to die.” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2211 "2024-12-28T13:30:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > What Israel is doing is _pest control_. That is a really ugly thing to say about a group of human beings. Even about human beings who are each individually culpable of something bad. And Gazans, whether or not you consider them an ethnicity, are not defined by their actions but by accidents of birth and residence. Gazans are a group of human beings with widely varying backgrounds. There are newborn Gazans, and pacifist Gazans. There are lots of Gazans who aren’t culpable of anything deserving death. Even Israel claims that every Gazan that they target is guilty of something, and that the others are innocent bystanders. Israel may be lying, but they know that they don’t want to admit to genocide. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2212 "2024-12-28T17:17:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > What Israel is doing is _pest control_. [Moderating] That’s way over the line, even for this thread. This is a warning for hate speech. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2213 "2024-12-28T17:20:51Z")
Here’s a little fact or two that might just interest a few people: About that hospital which everybody is so terribly worried about because it houses nothing but purely innocent civilians: The building is full of armed terrorists with shoulder-fired missiles. War is hell, war is terrible, war is sad, and there is always too much death. But if you’re looking for the story, try to see the whole truth. There’s just a little bit of room to blame the Hamas terrorists here, too. The terrorists in the hospital building almost outnumber the patients. > **[IDF arrests over 240 terror suspects in raid on northern Gaza hospital](https://www.ynetnews.com/article/syfpgjpryg#autoplay)** > > Military says forces encountered resistance, including anti-tank fire from terrorists, during targeted operation against Hamas command center located inside Kamal Adwan Hospital in Jabaliya Oh…and about those poor, innocent “journalists” who were killed for no reason: They were terrorists, members of Islamic Jihad. Their names, photos, and their duties within the terrorist Jihad organization are listed here: (scroll down two screens) [https://www.timesofisrael.com/reservist-killed-in-gaza-idf-defends-strike-on-palestinians-posing-as-journalists/?utm\_campaign=most\_popular&utm\_source=website&utm\_medium=article\_end&utm\_content=8](https://www.timesofisrael.com/reservist-killed-in-gaza-idf-defends-strike-on-palestinians-posing-as-journalists/?utm_campaign=most_popular&utm_source=website&utm_medium=article_end&utm_content=8) ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2214 "2024-12-28T22:10:56Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > About that hospital which everybody is so terribly worried about because it houses nothing but purely innocent civilians: > The building is full of armed terrorists with shoulder-fired missiles. …as someone who has been reading daily updates as to what has been happening at Kamal Adwan, here’s a little fact or two that might just interest a few people: chappachula is telling lies. I don’t know if its because they are gullible, or just fucking stupid. But Kamal Adwan has been under siege multiple times. In fact: its been under siege so many times the sieges have their own wikipedia page. > **[Kamal Adwan Hospital sieges](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Adwan_Hospital_sieges)** > > During the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip, the Kamal Adwan Hospital, a hospital in Beit Lahia, Gaza Strip, Palestine, has been besieged multiple times by the Israel Defense Forces. > On December 27, the Israeli army stormed the hospital, setting it on fire, and forcibly removed patients and staff from the hospital. At the time Kamal Adwan was the last remaining major medical facility in the north Gaza. > The IDF cited finding tunnels, weapons, and command centers within the hospital grounds ... Yesterday wasn’t the first time the hospital had been raided. It was raided on December the 12th last year. The generators were destroyed by the IDF in May. It was raided again on October 25th. The IDF claimed back then that they had “captured 100 militants” They also detained the hospital director Dr Hussam Abu Safiya. When they released, he found that the IDF had murdered his 15-year-old son. > **[‘I will stay inside my hospital until the last moment’](https://www.972mag.com/kamal-adwan-hospital-hussam-abu-safia/)** > > The Israeli army killed his son and arrested his colleagues in Kamal Adwan Hospital, but director Hussam Abu Safiya refuses to abandon his patients. > [@972+magazine](#): > > Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya, a pediatrician and the hospital’s director, refused to evacuate Kamal Adwan despite Israel’s threats. He was briefly detained during the raid, before returning to care for his sick and wounded patients. As he did so, an Israeli drone killed his 15-year old son, Ibrahim, who was sheltering at the hospital with the rest of his family. In a video from later that day, Oct. 26, Abu Safiya [can be seen](https://www.facebook.com/reel/1641988136734341) leading funeral prayers for his son in the hospital’s courtyard, choking back tears. On the 30th November the head of the ICU was targeted and killed by drone. He was passing through the main gates. The hospital has been repeatedly shot at, bombed, raided, and been under siege multiple times since the start of the war. They’ve been able to kill with impunity. Drones have targeted and killed people through windows or walking through gates. And yet: chappachula _also_ wants you to believe that this hospital, where the IDF have killed the 15-year-old son of the director and killed the head of the ICU as they walked through the gates, _also_ had 250 terrorists running around firing rockets. Is that a believable claim? But look at the article that chappachula links too. It only shows a video and a photo of a couple of handguns and some knives. 250 terrorists. “The terrorists almost outnumber the patients” claims chappachula. But they only had a _couple of handguns_ to go around. Again: does that sound believable? Not even a _single_ assault rifle? And despite the multiple raids and the drones and the snipers and the siege the IDF _were so incompetent_ they just kept missing those terrorists for the last year. They raided the hospital just weeks ago. And after they left, it remained under siege. Completely surrounded. Drones buzzing overhead. Yet somehow, 250 terrorist managed to sneak back into the hospital for some godforsaken reason. Right under the IDF’s noses. We all knew another, probably final, raid was coming. And the hospital has been the daily target of bombings and sniper fire. So why would 250 terrorists decide to congregate at the hospital? Were they just chilling, hanging out, with their two handguns and a handful of knives? What was the strategy here? Israel have shown zero hesitation attacking and shutting down hospitals. So why would “terrorists” take shelter en masse in such an obvious target? We aren’t fucking stupid chappachula. It was a _hospital_. Protected by the Geneva conventions and international humanitarian law. Hospitals _can_ lose their protection if they are committing acts that are “harmful to the enemy.” But there is no evidence…absolutely none at all, that this was happening at this hospital, or _any of the other_ hospitals in Gaza. This was a warcrime by the IDF. The “terrorists” that were taken away will not be held in accordance with the Geneva conventions. Family will not be able to communicate with them. Most will be “disappeared”, some may get randomly released over the next few months with stories of beatings and torture. As to this: > [@chappachula](#): > > About that hospital which everybody is so terribly worried about I mean: how heartless do you have to be to _not_ worry about that hospital? There are thousands of Palestinians trapped in the north. Not only are they still being bombed and shot at but people still get sick, have cancer, get Covid, have babies, and all the other things that people need to go to hospital _for_. What exactly, after the shutting down of the last major health facility in the north, are you expecting these people _to do_? Where do the people that need chemo go? > [@chappachula](#): > > Oh…and about those poor, innocent “journalists” who were killed for no reason: > They were terrorists, members of Islamic Jihad. > Their names, photos, and their duties within the terrorist Jihad organization are listed here: Again: are you gullible, or are you just fucking stupid? How could they be “posing” as journalists when they’ve been reporting on the entirety of the war? I’d ask for evidence: but the IDF have been doctoring evidence and openly lying since the start of this conflict. Not that they have anything here. A graphic released by the IDF with a bunch of photos and the word “eliminated” isn’t very impressive. You would have to be fucking stupid to just accept those claims on face value. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2215 "2024-12-28T22:23:30Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Oh…and about those poor, innocent “journalists” who were killed for no reason: > They were terrorists, members of Islamic Jihad. “The IDF says they were terrorists” isn’t the masterful argument you seem to think it is. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2216 "2024-12-28T22:30:06Z")
But look at all those guns! I trust the IDF as much as I trust Hamas (not at all). When you say you’re being attacked with anti-tank missiles and show…two pistols and some change (literally change) as weapons seized, it’s hard to believe. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2217 "2024-12-28T22:32:01Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > But they only had a _couple of handguns_ to go around. The ideal number of handguns in a hospital is zero. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2218 "2024-12-28T22:45:26Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The ideal number of handguns in a hospital is zero. …yet 52% of hospitals in America have armed guards. > **[Arming Hospital Security Officers](https://www.magmutual.com/learning/article/hospital-advisory-should-hospital-security-officers-be-armed-weapons/#:~:text=Handguns%20are%20used%20by%20hospital,52%25%20of%20the%20hospitals%20surveyed)** > > As violence in healthcare settings rises, hospitals are faced with a critical decision: should they arm their security officers? > **[Do Hospitals Have Armed Security? - CountyOffice.org](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htpu-7-T9ug%2F)** > > Do Hospitals Have Armed Security? In today's video, we will discuss the important topic of security in hospitals and the role of armed personnel in ensuring ... It can “boost staff confidence and morale!” Hospitals are allowed, under international humanitarian law, to store weapons removed from combatants being treated at the hospital. And security guards, as we can see in the United States, are _also_ allowed to be armed. So unfortunately, no matter what you consider to be the “ideal number of handguns” in a hospital, the consensus, especially in the US, is very different. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2219 "2024-12-28T22:55:33Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Hospitals are allowed, under international humanitarian law, to store weapons removed from combatants being treated at the hospital. Sounds like an acknowledgement that the hospital was harboring combatants to me. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2220 "2024-12-28T22:57:31Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Sounds like an acknowledgement that the hospital was harboring combatants to me. …hospitals are allowed to _treat_ combatants. It’s part of what hospitals _do_. Where exactly do you think IDF soldiers go when they get injured? Are you really this fucking stupid? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653.md?page=110) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653.md?page=112)