# Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit

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**Created:** [November 5, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653 "2023-11-05T21:57:34Z")\
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> [@What will happen in Gaza now that Trump won?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-in-gaza-now-that-trump-won/1009762/132):
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> In reality, there isn’t a huge difference, because Israel was never remotely interested in genociding the Palestinians; but anyone who thinks that is something Israel wanted should be shitting themselves, given that Trump is pretty clearly supportive of the idea (and back in reality, more so than any but the most unhinged Israelis). Correct; Israel has certainly made some mistakes, but all in all the handling of the conflict is very much in line with prior wars against insurgents under simila…

Interesting post from @Babale here that I want to respond to in this thread in case this is a bit off topic from that one, or gets contentions. Here you acknowledge that, were someone like Smotrich PM, Israel definitely could cross the line to genocidal behavior. That’s not surprising to me. But what I still don’t get is that, ISTM, Netanyahu lies somewhere between the perfect, ideal Israeli PM and Smotrich in terms of willingness to implement and excuse genocidal behavior (or ethnic cleansing or whatever). Presumably, you’d agree with that, correct? If so, then how are you so confident (apparently, at least AFAICT) that, as PM with regards to this war, Netanyahu is essentially acting as the _perfect, ideal Israeli PM_, rather than somewhere pretty far from that, on the spectrum between that perfect PM and Smotrich?

Because ISTM that, quite obviously, Netanyahu is acting _much, much worse_ than the perfect Israeli PM with regards to this war, if not nearly as bad as Smotrich would. It’s just not feasible to me that Netanyahu stumbled his way into _perfectly both morally as well as tactically and strategically in terms of war leadership_.

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