# Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** israel-hamas-war\
**Created:** [November 5, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653 "2023-11-05T21:57:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/2628 "2026-04-26T16:44:39Z")

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> [@I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1865):
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> > [@I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1803):
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> > Everything happening in Israel over the last 80 years is a pretty direct result of the Holocaust and WWII, which is what I mean by deferring problems.
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> It’s pretty incredible how Jews like Herzl were able to time travel after the Holocaust and create Zionism and Jewish communities in Israel decades before WWII.

I am aware of the history of Zionism, and I chose my words deliberately. World War Two shaped the birth of the nation-state of Israel: I think that’s undeniable. The fact that other factors did, too, is not really germane to my point. I don’t think that much of anything in the century up to 1918 contributed much to the problems we are facing, though of course all of history is always in the mix.

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