# Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** israel-hamas-war\ **Created:** [October 9, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317 "2023-10-09T15:10:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1224
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/1224 "2023-11-05T00:42:10Z")
> [@Is Israel an apartheid regime](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-israel-an-apartheid-regime/992614/3): > > _This will not end until Hamas is finished_. Hmm… > [@](#): > > There are additional trade-offs. Because the IDF does not intend to put large numbers of troops in the city, it has no practical way to prevent Hamas leaders from slipping away to the south. Furthermore, leaving the tunnel systems largely intact may allow parts of Hamas to live on underground beyond the current fighting. A remnant of Hamas surviving the war is at odds with public vows by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant to completely destroy the militant group. > > … > > While the IDF is sure to defeat Hamas militarily, Israel’s ability to manage a post-conflict power vacuum is less certain. Israel withdrew troops from Gaza in 2005 after 38 years of occupation and does not want responsibility for governing the territory after the fall of Hamas. However, once Hamas is out, Iran will likely look to insert a more radical structure to keep Israel bogged down. Once the ground war is over, Israel must permanently solve the problem. > **[How Israel Plans to Defeat Hamas in Gaza](https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/11/03/israel-idf-hamas-gaza-war-military-strategy/)** > > The IDF hopes to eliminate the group’s commanders and infrastructure without fighting block by block or in the tunnels. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317)._