# Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** israel-hamas-war\
**Created:** [October 9, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317 "2023-10-09T15:10:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/2163 "2023-12-03T23:44:59Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> So, this is from a few weeks ago, but it says the Israeli military found:
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> > Photographs released later by the IDF appeared to show the full alleged haul, laid out neatly: Military uniforms, 11 guns, three military vests, one with a Hamas logo, nine grenades, two Qurans, a string of prayer beads, a box of dates.
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> How can that possibly justify having shut down a major hospital, leaving patients unable to leave to die?

Again, that article is simply gaslighting you.

There were significantly more weapons found than that. The videos of Shifa from the first couple days on the IDF official channel alone show far more than “11 guns”. This link has a picture from Shifa with _dozens_ of guns.

> **[אחרי שנחשפה לכל העולם: צה"ל השמיד את מנהרת הטרור בשיפא](https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/b1redn64t)**
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> רגע לפני שנכנסה לתוקף הפסקת האש, הצבא עוד המשיך לפעול ברחבי רצועת עזה - והרס את תוואי מנהרות הטרור שבהן השתמש חמאס מתחת לבית חולים. צפו בכתבנו בתוך המנהרה, ובראיות שנמצאו בה - ובהן תיק "60 שנה לבארי". תיעוד מהתקיפות האחרונות שלפני ההפוגה

The idea that all that the IDF found at Al Shifa was a handful of guns is simply _not true_. It’s gaslighting. It’s as insidious as all the “Israel kills 500 in hospital airstrike” nonsense we heard at the beginning of the war.

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