# Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023

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**Created:** [October 9, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317 "2023-10-09T15:10:01Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/217 "2023-10-14T12:39:46Z")

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> [@Hamas attacks Israel, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/425):
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> There have not, however, been any elections in the ensuing years. Hamas has a history of either expelling or outright killing any whiff of opposition. And for damn sure Hamas never tolerated civilians being armed.
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> Yes, Hamas was a elected but they are not a democracy. If Gazans had wanted a change they were never allowed it.

Well, suffering the consecuences of your DECISIONS is drastically different from “being dealt shitty cards”, issntit?.

They elected a KNOWN radical, terrorist organization (already declared a terrorist organization years before the elections by the USA, EU-27, UK, Canada, Australia, etc…) … over another - more moderate - option …

and surprise-surprise … the terrorist were not true democrats at heart

having said that - back to news:  
this article seems to convey rather well what happened that morning based on “individual’s” POV: [Hamas attack on Israel kibbutz Be’eri captured by mothers’ WhatsApp group](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67105618)

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