# Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** israel-hamas-war\ **Created:** [October 9, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317 "2023-10-09T15:10:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2239
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> [@Babale](#): > > I am sure that we will hear some apologies from all of the people insisting that Israel is trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza, right? …I’m certainly not holding my breath waiting for an apology from anyone in this thread for being wrong about Al Shifa. I’m not holding my breath waiting for an apology for how people reacted when I said the IDF were targeting hospitals. From today: > [@](#): > > Terrified civilians are trapped inside the Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza as Israeli forces have encircled the medical facility, a senior official at the Ministry of Health tells Al Jazeera. > > More than 100 people have been killed in strikes close to the facility, the ministry said on Tuesday. > **[Northern Gaza hospital ‘overwhelmed by horror’ as Israeli army lays siege](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/5/northern-gaza-hospital-overwhelmed-by-horror-as-israeli-army-lays-siege)** > > Health official describes gunfire and artillery shells outside Kamal Adwan Hospital as hundreds are trapped inside. One by one they are being shut down. And it means in the few remaining hospitals they look like this: (link spoiled as it contains disturbing video of patients getting medical attention on the floor of the hospital) [https://twitter.com/rulajebreal/status/1732106350170177579](https://twitter.com/rulajebreal/status/1732106350170177579) This war is not targeting Hamas. It has targeted civilian infrastructure, housing complexes, government buildings, schools, farms, hospitals, refugee camps, churches, Mosques, universities. It has targeted innocent men, women, children. 6000 dead children is the latest estimate. People were driven from the north to the south, where they were told “it was safe.” And now the south is the frontline. _“It was a trap”_ they are saying. After nearly 60 days of the siege, that have effectively cut off all access to food, water, electricity, fuel, [OCHA are reporting overcrowded shelters and outbreaks of infections and diseases such as Hepatitis A.](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/4/israel-asks-palestinians-to-evacuate-but-is-any-place-safe-in-gaza) Cindy McCain, director of the United Nations World Food Programme, has said Gaza is on the brink of famine. People that I’ve been following are now sick, some bed-ridden for days, because it isn’t just the bombs that are killing people. Disease, infection, starvation. We are at _that_ stage of the conflict now. > [@](#): > > On Sunday, Israel’s military designated about 20 percent of Khan Younis for immediate evacuation. The marked area houses 21 shelters and 50,000 internally displaced people, mostly from the north of Gaza, according to OCHA. > > Israel ordered the evacuation as it has expanded its bombardment, killing more than 800 Palestinians in Gaza in the past three days. Residents say they have been told to move to Rafah, which has also not been spared. > > Khan Younis was a designated safe space before the truce ended and 215,000 displaced Palestinians were sheltering in 34 UNRWA shelters in the city. Tens of thousands of displaced Palestinians took shelter in other places provided by the local authorities. > [@](#): > > Tzipi Hotovely, the Israeli ambassador to the United Kingdom, told Sky News that al-Mawasi, a narrow coastal Bedouin town towards the south, is a safe zone and is one of the shelters created with aid organisations. When Sky News correspondents visited al-Mawasi to investigate, they found no shelter arrangements such as agency tents or food kitchens. So no, you won’t be getting an apology from me. People are being driven from north to the south, civilian infrastructure being destroyed as they go. 60 days of siege with zero sign of that changing. The strategy and the tactics tell us exactly what the plan is. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317)._