# Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** israel-hamas-war\
**Created:** [October 9, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317 "2023-10-09T15:10:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4265 "2024-08-03T22:48:28Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> The six weeks of negotiation is taken from paragraph 3, and referred to as a prerequisite for phase 2 in paragraph 2(b).

…this isn’t something that was “up for negotiation.” It was _conditional_. It was a red-line. A non-negotiable.

> Israeli ministers have stated repeatedly and on the record that they would demand the full destruction of Hamas’s military and governing capabilities before committing to a permanent ceasefire and withdrawal such as is contemplated by phase 2.

:: shrug ::

Yes, this is exactly what I was _saying_. This wasn’t a good faith deal. The terms of the resolution were quite clear. If the deal was conditional on Hamas stepping down, that _had_ to be in the resolution.

And if Hamas _had_ agreed to the deal, then the hostages would have been released, but the “war” would still have continued until “Hamas was destroyed”, whatever the heck thats supposed to mean. Why would they agree to that?

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