# Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** israel-hamas-war\ **Created:** [October 9, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317 "2023-10-09T15:10:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4289
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Responding here per mod instructions, and this being the most recent active thread on this topic not in the Pit > [@Democratic National Convention August 19-22 2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-national-convention-august-19-22-2024/1005835/630): > > > [@Democratic National Convention August 19-22 2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-national-convention-august-19-22-2024/1005835/603): > > > > Well, there’s this: ⁢ > > I mean, sure… we’ll see, but, ya know… we could just stop sending them the weapons until we figure something out. Then I could watch these awesome conventions with a clearer conscious. ⁢ It’s not that simple. That is what I find frustrating about the protests. Snarky one liners are not a way to make policy. The US can’t just blow up its alliance with Israel. Israel is a strategic partner in the Middle East, and basically why the US has influence in that area. If we want to have any influence to prevent World War III from happening, we have to keep a foothold there. You can’t take you ball and go home and then still have influence over the game. What the US can and is doing is bending the rules of the treaty. They can slow walk things, or happen to not have enough of things. And, yes, you heard me right: the US is doing that. See [this article](https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/biden-italian-strike-israel-arms-shipments), for instance about the US slow walking. Or [this article](https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/biden-italian-strike-israel-arms-shipments) from a pro-Israel source complaining Biden is doing this. And thos are just from the top of Google. The concept of slowwalking means you can’t admit you’re doing it, because then you’re violating the treaty. And, if the stuff about preventing WWIII doesn’t appeal to you, I’ll point out it also means the US loses any influence in what Israel is doing. This Trump-style break everything diplomacy is not a good thing. There are always these super simple solutions. They don’t work. The situation is complicated. Definitely more complicated than a snarky comment. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317)._