# Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023

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**Created:** [October 9, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317 "2023-10-09T15:10:01Z")\
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The slightly greater context of my quote:

> [@Will Israel destroy Hamas](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-destroy-hamas/991277/37):
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> And destroying Hamas at the cost of killing hundreds to thousands of non-Hamas is not only … ethically problematic … it is counterproductive over any medium term as it creates the circumstance in which another revenge focused group emerges.
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> Is there a way to destroy Hamas without that? If not are there then ways to effectively diminish Hamas with good specificity?

A “bunch of casualties” hasn’t quite reached the hundreds of thousands yet, not even adding in the multiple tens of thousands attributed to starvation … but it is in the ballpark. And so far Hamas not destroyed. I think getting in that range is still likely given current policies, mostly by induced malnutrition and disease.

And it is not established yet that reoccupation will eliminate Hamas either, or at least not without creating another resistance that has the same ends and methods, the same need for revenge.

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