# Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023

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**Tags:** israel-hamas-war\
**Created:** [October 9, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317 "2023-10-09T15:10:01Z")\
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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> So you agree the GHF was totally incompetent!

Did I agree to that? I said they were just about the second worst option possible. I don’t think they’re _totally_ incompetent.

I don’t think UNRWA was incompetent at all, by the way - I think they were accomplishing _exactly_ what they intended to accomplish. They viewed entranching the conflict as a goal (which is why the definition of a Palestinian refugee is different from the definition of every other refugee on the planet - the policy is hand crafted to keep Palestinians “on ice” to be used to pressure Israel with Right of Return demands).

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