Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023

[Babale]

@iiandyiiii

Please cite for this specific claim about my post. Specific words

Motte-and-bailey fallacy - Wikipedia.

You start off with the motte here:

@iiandyiiii

Shooting unarmed civilians in the back is normal legal military action?

You continue fighting outside the motte here:

@Babale

Do you mean shooting at a crowd of people who were walking towards a military position and ignoring warnings to stop?

@iiandyiiii

No, I mean exactly what I said.

Then you drop the drawbridge but do not retreat across it here, by introducing some off ramps like “in the back (or otherwise posed no threat)”:

@iiandyiiii

Suppose an IDF member had reported that he witnessed or was ordered to shoot unarmed civilians in the back (or otherwise posed no threat). Would you agree that this is good evidence of IDF atrocities?

And then you post your link without actually sounding the retreat, until I call you on it, and suddenly the motte never existed and you’re only defending the bailey.

@iiandyiiii

Specific words.

That’s precisely the beauty of this tactic, isn’t it?