I have no idea why you’re asking me this nor what point you’re trying to make.
I don’t really blame Palestinians for falling for Hamas’ propaganda (for those who support Hamas) or for being too afraid to oppose it. Most of the people in Gaza today grew up with Hamas controlling their education system. Is it any wonder if they are brainwashed?
While we’re on the subject of human shields and getting outraged at its use, it should be noted, for balance reasons, that the United Nations, The Guardian newspaper, the Israeli NGO Breaking the Silence and the SoldiersSpeakOut group have reported the Israeli Defence Forces using Palestinian civilians, including children, as human shields.
That’s like asking NYC to throw off the Mafia or something. How the hell are they supposed to do that?
I don’t know, I was just lashing out. Hamas is impossibly evil to me. That assault on the musical festival with killing & raping and now the using of human shields is just too damn much.
It’s even possible that the missile went astray and the person who launched it isn’t certain it’s their missile.
Wars are messy and ugly.
This is a very upsetting situation for all concerned. I have no real sympathy for terrorists, but as an optimist I believe a majority of Palestinians would prefer better alternatives - it’s not like they can easily criticize, or could recently vote for other choices if they wanted to. Acting too aggressively despite provocation may make one more unable to win hearts and minds later on. I am certainly no expert in law nor the complex contentious issues here; of course emotions are understandably running high. But I found this article interesting; and the comments suggest those on both sides seem to dislike it, without saying how they specifically disagree. I hope the most reasonable solution can be found, and soon. I think there is an absolute obligation to provide food, water, electricity to hospitals and access to medicines and related equipment.
Soviet Union, East Germany, Poland, South Africa, India, Alabama…
The hospital attack should remind Israel that civilian casualties in Gaza will be a PR disaster. Israel gets blamed for the hospital even if it was a errant Hamas rocket.
Going into Gaza could recruit 10 times more people into joining Hamas.
I understand there is tremendous pressure for a deadly strike against Hamas. I’m glad its not my decision.
Just recently, multiple Hamas officials have appeared in interviews on the BBC and other channels and denied killing any civilians. It was not even risible.
One IDF incident that stayed with me was the 2006 cross-border raid by Hezbollah which marked the start of the 2006 Lebanon War. There was a lot made of two captured Israeli soldiers, whom Peres and Olmert assured their families (and the public) were alive and well, even though it was known from the start that they were killed during the initial raid (the Wikipedia article mentions that this information, or at least the fact they sustained critical RPG and bullet injuries, was included in classified reports).
At any rate, my point was merely that, beyond the normal fog of war, for PR purposes nobody is going to admit they blew up a hospital, deliberately or otherwise.
IF the IDF destroyed the hospital, it reflects the question, do you drop atomic bombs on Japan and kill many civilians in order to preserve the 1,000,000 American lives that would be lost invading Japan?
Would you destroy a hospital full of hamas guys and their munitions to save your family who might be killed by those guys or their munitions?
I would.
Except there were no secondary explosions, so there were no munitions there. Do you have a cite that it was a “hospital full of hamas guys”?
That’s a conclusion you probably aren’t qualified to make. Will a misfired rocket that hits a building, collapsing it, necessarily set off munitions that are near or under the building? I know I don’t know that answer.
No. And since, according to the Washington Post, it is, or was, the only Christian hospital in Gaza, it plausibly was less full of Hamas guys than others.
I’m sympathetic to Israel, but know full well that some Israeli Jews have room in their hearts for hatred of Muslims, or Christians, or both. And Israelis make terrible mistakes — some have already died in this war from friendly fire. As for the Israeli government blame statement, even the best wartime leaders (Churchill) sometimes lie when the truth is too heartbreaking. So having any certainty about this tonight is a rush to judgment.
Probably not. I’ve seen a lot of videos of strikes on buildings with ammo stored in them which subsequently “cooked off” from videos in Ukraine. I guess it’s not impossible there were deep underground parts under the hospital, akin to bunkers, that might remain protected.
They work for us. They’re our servants. At the very least I’d like to know that they’re, uh, doing something. I don’t need nitty-gritty, low-level details. A top-level, unclassified summary is fine with me.
No, sorry. You’re not entitled to know what the top diplomats are doing hour to hour in a time of international crisis. You’re just not.
You got one. Paraphrased: “We’re having discussions with all parties in the region to ensure this doesn’t escalate beyond the immediate conflict.”
They’ve literally said that or something substantively the same every single day since the initial attacks.
[sarcasm]I feel so reassured, now.[/sarcasm]
Honestly, I have no idea what you’re looking for here. This is how diplomacy works. You don’t get to see the sausage being made, just the finished product. It has been, is now, and always will be that way.
I want to know what Trump discussed with Putin during their ‘private’ meeting. “[He] work[s] for us. [He’s] our servant.” Doesn’t mean I get to know. Your request is completely unreasonable in a geopolitical sense - if the US required the Executive branch to disclose everything, nobody would tell us anything.