Good point. I don’t see this as the action of Israel but rather the IDF. Unfortunately the current public face of Israel is the war on Gaza.
The report, based on an analysis of Hamas battle videos and interviews with Hamas fighters and IDF soldiers, depicts a systematic exploitation of civilians and civilian infrastructure for military purposes, effectively blaming Hamas for the ongoing war, destruction, deaths and displacement in the region.
I have made this point over and over- Hamas does not give a crap about the people of Gaza- except maybe as a way to leach money off them. Hamas doesnt want a ceasefire- this is screamingly obvious.
And Israel does not give a crap about the people of Gaza. Really sucks for the people of Gaza.
Looks as if you’re going to get an answer to this question:
https://apnews.com/article/iran-hamas-israel-30968a7acb31cd8b259de9650014b779
Yup. I think those two statements explain a lot about what’s happened to those people recently. Sucks to be the target of both sides in a war.
I cant argue with that. But Israel is not solely to blame- they agreed to the UN ceasefire, while Hamas rejected it- and spray painting swastikas on American walls is not doing anyone any favors. Mind you- Netanyahu is a crook, and partially to blame about how deadly this has gotten.
See, why didn’t Israel do things like that (assuming it was Israel, which seems a safe bet) from the beginning, rather than first trying to genocide their way to eliminating Hamas?
Was Haniyeh in hostile territory prior to today? I thought he lived in Qatar. I’ve read Mossad has more trouble operating in Qatar and Turkey than the likes of Iran and Lebanon.
~Max
ISTM that if Israel carried out an operation in Qatar, America would see it coming, and Qatar would surmise that America tacitly allowed it, which would greatly complicate things in the region.
…I no longer believe this to be the case. I know you cited a single sentence that claimed that they did. But nobody actually went on the record, Netanyahu never backed it, I don’t believe it was ever seriously an option.
Meanwhile:
Yes, spray painting swastikas on American walls is bad.
But one would think the wide-spread credible allegations of rape and torture, Polio, hepatitis, the state of the hospitals, food insecurity, would also not be doing any favours. One of these things was done by a handful of anti-Semitic idiots. The other is being done by state-actors who are being funded in part by the United States government.
When has that ever stopped Mossad? They operate in “friendly” countries too, including the UAE. Why would Qatar be any different?
Surely the act of harbouring Hamas renders a place “hostile territory” to them, anyway?
Well, we wouldn’t want Israel to go to any more trouble than it has to. I guess white phosphorous on refugee camps it has to be, then.
Geopolitical and logistical concerns probably stop Mossad from carrying out all sorts of “targeted killings” in countries like the UAE or Qatar.
~Max
I.e., nobody cares about Palestinians, but you can’t go to a real country and start murdering people, or assassinate their citizens; there could be actual consequences.
Doesn’t always stop them…
That’s, of course, leaving aside Mossad doing things like killing innocent waiters in Norway using fake Canadian passports…
Right, and of course the multiple assassinations in Europe following the Munich Olympics.
~Max
“Israel has accepted this proposal and the Security Council has an opportunity to speak with one voice and call on Hamas to do the same,”
Mind you, that was the June UN proposal which Hamas more or less ignored. I dont know about the newest one.
Note that it is the IDF that is doing the indictment. There have always been roguer soldiers- criminals- even the USA has had a few.
…yes, this is what I was talking about. Neither this or the statement released by the UN included anyone from Israel going on the record. In fact, Netanyahu at the time was saying the complete opposite.
And it isn’t correct that “Hamas more or less ignored” this. They pretty much said yes, but argued that some things were taken off the table that they wanted back on. It was a ceasefire negotiation. And they were negotiating. That’s how it’s supposed to work. If one party says “this is the only option on the table” that isn’t a negotiation.
Just a reminder that back in June, Israel had targeted and killed the Chief Negotiators grandchildren. They had targeted and killed the Chief Negotiators children.
And now…they’ve killed the Chief Negotiator. I don’t think you can argue that Israel is approaching the ceasefire negotiations in good faith when they are literally assassinating not only the people they are negotiating with…but also their families.
Note that the only reason they indicted in this case was because the evidence was so freaking overwhelming and public.
And it resulted in riots.
Humanitarian agencies have been reporting allegations of routine harassment, abuse, humiliation, torture and sexual assault going back decades. Every Palestinian has a story. This isn’t a story about “rogue soldiers.”
Israel UN rep okayed it.
Which is not saying “yes- please stop killing our people.”
…name them and cite for them on the record, please.
And Netanyahu was still saying the opposite at the time.
The agreement essentially was, “we will stop killing you today, but we reserve the right to start killing you again once our hostages are safe, whenever we feel like it”. It wasn’t an agreement to “stop killing Palestinians.”
Hamas wanted a proper ceasefire, not a temporary, arbitrary pause.
I have cited this twice, stop moving the goalposts.