A cite that Hamas still controls Palestinians in Gaza and shows no signs of ending the war? Show me a cite that Hamas soldiers are starving.
… Israel has complete control over what is and isn’t allowed into the strip. Once it is allowed through one of the entry points, the respective aid agency takes over. They are only allowed to travel on approved routes.
For example: from the latest Gaza flash update:
The process is strictly controlled by Israel.
At no stage of the process does Hamas control the ability to “safely distribute it.”
Often in the past Gazan police and security forces (yes, they are Hamas, but everyone with any authority is in Hamas, but not everyone in Hamas are terrorists) have provided escort and security. But they were never in control. Everything from access to the routes were directed by Israeli authorities, with the respective aid agencies in charge once the routes were approved.
And their ability to do so though diminished during the “war” as many, especially senior police, were targeted and assassinated.
Why on earth would we need to do that?
Israel is engaging in colonial expansion. Palestinians are just road kill. With luck they may end up with reservations under the guise of states.
The Gaza incident is a major set back for Israel. We were on the cusp of an Israel, US, Saudi alliance that could have changed the direction of mid-east politics. Netanyahu and Hamas contrived to sink that.
That’s irrelevant. It’s a fact that Israel controls the flow of food into Gaza. There are hundreds of reports that they’re not letting in enough food, and therefore Gazans are starving. That’s within Israel’s control and responsibility.
Israel, in Gaza is still using WW2 strategy - mass strategic attack capability and scorched earth defense. Israel is not large enough to sustain a war on that basis. When Israel consumes and cleanses the West Bank, Gaza, Southern Lebanon and tastey parts of Syria and Jordan, it will still be smaller than the US Navaho reservation. It lacks the population to occupy and govern even that small an area.
Israel exists because of the military weakness of its’ enemies. But the military world just changed. FPV drones can destroy large bombers on the ground. They can be air dropped across borders and carried by smugglers. The Ukraine raid on Russian strategic bombers was just the beginning.
Gaza demonstrates that without an air force, Israel is a sitting duck for land invasion.
Nazi Germany did not implement the Holocaust by allowing the public to perceive the situation in human terms.
~Max
Nazi Germany and it’s people were pounded to dust until surrender. The Allies didn’t spend time worrying about feeding them. Israel, on the other hand, has been engaged in the process of feeding Palestinians.
…which is why we now have the Geneva Conventions and International Humanitarian Law.
And they have so far proven to be utterly incapable of doing so at the sort of scale and safety one would expect of a humanitarian organisation.
They need to step aside and leave it to the people with decades of experience to do the job.
Nazi Germany was actually an existential threat to the rest of Europe. Gaza and even Hamas are not remotely existential threats to Israel. Right now Israel has all the power in Gaza, and they are wielding that power to prevent Gazans from getting enough food.
It’s odd that since Hamas started this war in 2023 there has been a constant litany of mass death predictions from starvation. This hasn’t come to pass.
The war can end tomorrow with the surrender of Hamas. Their plan to drag in other Arab nations failed and that’s likely because of Iran’s involvement.
That’s simply not true.
…it isn’t odd at all.
Why would you think it was odd?
Israel has been using starvation as a weapon since the beginning. See the HRW report from December 2023.
The language used in reports like this are typically things like “According to the WFP, there is a serious risk of starvation and famine in Gaza.” And that was true at the time, was it not?
It’s here now. The deaths from malnutrition stayed at a constant of about 35 deaths right up until this week. It’s now 115. We are at the start of a death wave. And because for many its gone too far, even if we flooded Gaza with food right now, it would be too late for many of them.
That “litany of mass death predictions from starvation” was intended to stop what we are seeing right now. The problem isn’t that the mass death predictions were being made: but that people weren’t listening.
And once again: the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation and Israel are fundamentally incapable of providing the require aid (not just food) for the Palestinians in Gaza. They need to step aside and let the humanitarian agencies do their job.
Hamas have agreed to release all of the hostages and to step down from power. This would have been what happened if Israel didn’t break the ceasefire a few months ago. Hamas are not what prevents humanitarian aid from flooding Gaza right now. It doesn’t require the war to end. This is a deliberate decision by the Israeli government.
uh huh.
…uh huh what?
And you agree that we can flood Gaza with aid without having to end the war? That we can just do that right now?
Surprise surprise, it appears Hamas is not actually stealing significant amounts of aid for Gazans. So the starvation and lack of medical care in Gaza is due to the actions of the Israeli government and IDF.
Surprise surprise, it’s actually not nearly that simple, per your own source:
So they have a bunch of aid that was stolen without USAID thenselves ever identifying who stole it.
That is certainly not evidence that the aid was not taken by Hamas. It was taken by someone, and Hamas is certainly the most capable group of carrying something like that out.
That USAID doesn’t have (or didn’t choose to present in this particular report) evidence that Hamas is responsible for those thefts is not in and of itself evidence that other US agencies or the Israelis are wrong about who they identified as the perpetrator. It just means that USAID didn’t have that info.
I think your confused about who the Nazis are here.
Hamas agreeing to surrender, return of the hostages, and stepping down from power.
…yes. What about it?
Iran’s religious rulers.