…I shared this earlier in the thread.
If Israels goal isn’t to limit food into Gaza, it wouldn’t be categorising how many calories of food are on each truck and cross-references this to around how many Palestinians are in one area or another. You don’t count calories unless you intend to restrict the amount of food allowed into any given area.
…they were. It’s literally right there in what you quoted. Aid groups have established routes and safe corridors. They keep asking Israeli authorities to use those routes: instead they get directed into areas controlled by Israeli backed gangs. This is as nefarious as you can get.
…the original reporting is from the BBC, but a summary is here:
The BBC report:
Finally, a contractor goes on the record.
Wait, that’s supposed to sound not nefarious? I’m lost.
Considering this eyewitness report by a former US special forces member, @Magiver, are you in favor, or do you oppose, the IDF shooting into crowds of unarmed starving civilians trying to get food?
Well, and this is the odd bit, isn’t it? I get Israel’s idea that Hamas must be destroyed, but in the end Hamas is an idea that will reconstitute in no small part because of the suffering of the people in Gaza. I seriously can’t understand what Israel thinks the end to this is.
And as for Hamas stealing the aid, as I’ve heard a number of humanitarian agencies point out, the way to counter that is to send enough food so that the value of the food drops.
nm. wrong thread, thought this was the Pit one.
There’s no coherent strategy, unless it’s meant to be ethnic cleansing. The Israeli government’s actions are completely incompatible with any sort of long term plan for peace and human rights.
Can you think of a group that would do this for the power and thus control by not distributing it?
From Haaretz:
Over 1,000 have died so far while crowding around to get food, since late May, most of them from Israel Defense Forces gunfire.
What happens to those who can’t make it to the trucks or the distribution centers? What about the women, the disabled, the sick, the elderly? What about the unlucky?
They are starving to death.
This is entirely on Israel’s watch, and under their control. Controlled starvation; controlled shootings at aid sites.
Thought this was interesting:
Mostly because neither Trump nor his base are particularly sympathetic to the Palestinians, and Israel tends to be a major area of support for them.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to propose to the political-security cabinet a plan to annex areas in the Gaza Strip, in an attempt to keep Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich in his government. According to the plan, Israel will declare that it is giving Hamas a few days to agree to a cease-fire, and if not, will begin annexing areas of the Strip.
The most significant destruction has occurred in the neighboring towns of Bani Suheila and Abasan al-Kabira, where most buildings have been destroyed, according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. Another town, Khuza’a, has been completely leveled.
“It appears that most of the destruction was done by bulldozers and the like,” Haaretz wrote, adding that, in recent months, the Israeli “military has greatly accelerated the pace of destruction in southern Gaza, using private contractors that earn a profit of thousands of shekels per building razed.”
In recent weeks, the demolitions of homes, along with aerial bombardments, have been “the only operational activity that has been carried out systematically” by the Israeli army in Gaza, according to Haaretz. “Hundreds of bulldozers, excavators, and armored Israeli Caterpillar D9 bulldozers continue their efforts to make Gaza uninhabitable for years to come.”
To quote Gomer Pyle “Surprise, Surprise. Surprise!”
How much resistance is Hamas putting up at this point? Presumably they still control parts of Gaza, since not all the hostages have been returned. Is there any actual fighting going on?
There have been 5 IDF losses in the last 11 days.
Based on polling, it appears the Democratic party consensus to support Israel is dead or dying:
The next Democratic president will probably try to end military aid to Israel, barring a reversal of this trend.
…with respect, I very much doubt it. For starters, these trends were there before the last election. They were just either ignored or recontextualised by both the party and the media. What matters isn’t what the polling or the consensus says. What matters is what they do. And if this interview says anything, it’s very much likely they aren’t going to do anything.
Its an interview with Democrat Sen. Elissa Slotkin. She’s so hopelessly lost in her talking points she pivots from “she can’t do anything” to a private initiative to maybe possibly get baby food onto a non-negotiable list.
This is the Democrats in a nutshell. The next Democratic president won’t try to end military aid to Israel. It would take a complete overhaul of the party for that to happen. And I don’t see that being in the cards. Even AOC voted for the latest round of military funding.
Ultimately, the party is its voters, not its office holders. We’ll see, but if Democratic primary voters want Democrats who promise to cutoff military aid to Israel, then that’s what Democratic primary voters will get in the next election.
Eventually, yes. I think you and B_B are both partly right, in that the sentiments of the rank and file can undergo a major shift long before it’s meaningfully reflected in policy decisions. Takes quite a while to get that ship turned around.
It didn’t take long with Trump. He changed his party in one election.