Just because you said so doesn’t make it true.
No, but a preponderance of evidence sure leads one to lean in that direction.
…if it were true the IDF would have released dossiers of evidence. They’ve occupied every single hospital in Gaza multiple times. Damaged all of them. Destroyed a few of them.
Yet every time I’ve asked you for the dossiers you’ve linked to the same photos and video of near empty tunnels under Al-Shifa and a statistical handful of weapons.
Where are the dossiers?
Lets start with the Turkish Palestinian Friendship Hospital. It shut down because it ran out of fuel in November 2023. It was taken over and occupied by the IDF in 2024 and used as a military base.
It was demolished by the IDF in 2025.
Why did they demolish the Turkish Palestinian Friendship Hospital? It was the only cancer hospital in the strip.
The only people using hospitals as military bases in Gaza were the IDF.
Every accusation is a confession.
I recall reading a couple months ago that Hamas’s top military commander was killed when the IDF bombed the UN hospital/school complex he was hiding under.
~Max
…I’m assuming you are talking about Mohammed Sinwar? Allegedly in airstrikes on and around European Hospital on the 13th of May this year? That also killed 28 other people?
There was no independent confirmation of the exact location of that tunnel. It wasn’t connected to the hospital. The IDF didn’t provide evidence it was under the hospital.
There were no warnings before the attacks on the hospital as required by International Humanitarian Law. So it was yet another warcrime. The IDF had already occupied the hospital multiple times. There were other options that didn’t involve bombing the hospital killing dozens of people.
Why would I spend any sort of time digging up that sort of info when we both know exactly how you would respond:
You’re never going to accept any evidence I provide if it comes from the IDF. You insist that we find some mythical independent source in Gaza we are supposed to rely on. You try to tell me that Hamas members with a Qatari state media badge are an “independent” source. Yeah, I’m not buying that. I’ll stick with the IDF account.
…nor should you. It wasn’t me that provided the fact check here: it was the BBC. Take it up with them.
Well, you can’t, because those dossiers don’t exist.
And back to my question: why did they demolish the Turkish Palestinian Friendship Hospital?
So are you backhandedly admitting that there no independent confirmation?
“I would gladly show you, but you would only…” is nothing more than admission of defeat from someone who wants the rest of us to believe that that this is some sort of private conversation, and not a public display.
Yeah, but I want to see if he will admit it or just continue with the lampshading.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
Well, not really a desert. They’ll be some nice subdivisions coming in eventually.
I watched the BBC video you sent me and it seems they verified an entrance to an underground structure just outside the hospital, where three bunker busters hit. They could not independently confirm if the footage showing bodies/cash/munitions inside the tunnels is from that site, nor the layout of the tunnels, nor whether the tunnels go under or connect the actual hospital building itself.
But the dude seems to be dead, I personally doubt the IDF would kill him somewhere else without announcing it to the world. Yeah, maybe they had a command center under the parking lot a few meters from the Emergency Room, which is technically not under the hospital. But on the other hand, if you want to split that hair, technically Israel’s bunker busters didn’t hit the hospital building, they hit the parking lot, some green space between buildings, and a nearby road…
As to whether it constitutes a war crime, it probably is a war crime since apparently Israel didn’t warn ahead of time. I’m not sure about proportionality. My point was countering you on c&c under hospitals.
Older BBC video
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c4g28z483eko
~Max
Backhandedly? I think it’s pretty patently obvious that the only two sides you could possibly get confirmation from on that sort of thing are Israel and Hamas, and it’s equally obvious why that confirmation isn’t forthcoming from Hamas’ side.
…LOL.
Then you haven’t been following this conflict closely enough.
Yes, we ARE going to split this hair.
Because the hospital was bombed, killing 28 people.
It was done without warning.
It was a warcrime.
You didn’t counter me at all. Because we don’t know where he was found, and secondly, a couple of mattresses on the floor, two chairs and a desk are really stretching the definition of a “command and control bunker.”
…or Israel could let international media people in. Or there are a number of reputable international independent international investigatory agencies that could also be given access to the locations and the information. Heck: take it to the International Criminal Court. Present the information as a defence at the International Court of Justice.
But here is your opportunity to show the rest of this message board that you have solid evidence to show us, right?
Sure, it was mentioned, but the article I saw also stated that the country’s main labour unions are not backing a general strike. So, while a few stores may not have opened, it is still business as usual in Israel.
Hundreds of thousands of Israelis are protesting, disruptively, the war in Gaza.
Good for them.
Haaretz says Netanyahu is opening up another front in the war - the rest of the world…
As they say in Asia, “Never get involved in a land war in the rest of the world.”