# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> ‘ooh, what a cute onesie!’

Heh, more than enough to keep me away!

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It did occur to me that that might not exactly be an attractant!

– if you’ve got kids, though, “oh good, there’s still a _clean_ onesie” has probably still affected you, though.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
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The last couple of baby showers i went to were all baby books. It was kind of fun to see what everyone’s favorite books for little kids were

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
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When I spent my summer weekends working at the Renaissance Faire in the ‘90s, we hung out with a lot of the musicians, and sang a lot of songs that were commonly performed there (a mix of Irish and Scottish folk songs, and modern “rennie” music). "The Bonnie Banks o’ Loch Lomond" was one of the songs we often sang, so I recognized the “high road/low road” reference immediately.

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What happened this week that more people have heard of slack?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2227 "2023-02-24T18:17:37Z")

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I read about it for the first time in the twitter thread. Apparently twitter turned off slack. I had to google to figure out what they were talking about, and it seems like it’s a thing I should have known.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2228 "2023-02-24T18:24:33Z")

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In what Twitter thread? I have used slack, and it’s my husband’s primary chat tool at work. But i still have no idea why it was in the news.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2229 "2023-02-24T18:28:23Z")

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This is what I was referring to. It’s from a “Now that Musk owns Twitter” thread in the pit.

> [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition/963442/3384):
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> WSOAIT? (What Stage of Agile Is This?)
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> > On Wednesday, Twitter employees had the tech equivalent of a snow day: the company’s Slack instance was down for “routine maintenance,” they were told, and the company was implementing a deployment freeze as a result.
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> > But **Platformer** can now confirm that Slack wasn’t down for “routine maintenance.” “There is no such thing as routine maintenance. That’s bullshit,” a current Slack employee told us.
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> > In this as in[so many other things](https://www.wsj.com/articles/under-elon-musk-twitter-faces-suits-claiming-over-14-million-in-unpaid-bills-484d8bc4), Twitter hasn’t paid its Slack bill. But that’s not why Slack went down: someone at Twitter manually shut off access, we’re told. **Platformer** was not able to learn the reason prior to publication, though the move suggests Musk may have turned against the communication app — or at least wants to see if Twitter can run without Slack and the expenses associated with it.
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> Although later down in the article, there is this choice quote
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> > “We didn’t pay our Slack bill,” one employee wrote. “Now everyone is barely working. Penny wise, pound foolish.” Another worker called the disappearance of Slack the “proverbial final straw.” “Oddly enough, it’s the Slack deactivation that has pushed me to finally start applying to get out,” they wrote.
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> Which is a very “I can excuse all the hate speech but I draw the line at my tools being touched” kind of sentiment.
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> [New cracks emerge in Elon Musk's Twitter](https://www.platformer.news/p/new-cracks-emerge-in-elon-musks-twitter)

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My gf uses Slack for work (advertising). We have identical iPhones. Sometimes I’ll pick hers up accidentally and the entire screen is filled with Slack notifications.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
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So far the poll results are confirming my worst fears. I’m once again the last person to have heard of something fairly commonplace.

FWIW, we use “Teams” for what appears to be a similar function.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2232 "2023-02-24T18:38:21Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> FWIW, we use “Teams” for what appears to be a similar function.

Same here at our ad agency. I know _of_ Slack, but have never been in an organization which used it.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2233 "2023-02-24T18:57:18Z")

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A few years ago the company I was working for introduced Slack. It seemed like most of the younger engineers, whose lives revolved around social media, liked it, while the older engineers who were used to communication by email, hated it. I was in the latter camp, and I actually refused to use it. I told people if they wanted to contact me, send me an email. With email, I can answer it when I’m free to do so, not interrupt my train of thought in the middle of a debugging session, and I can spend the time to do the necessary research to give you a complete answer, not just whatever I can come up with off the top of my head at this moment.

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As for the movie question - depends on how many points I have. If I have a ton of points in the movie, I’ll go for the box office smash that everyone hates. _Pecunia non olet._ My artistic soul will just have to be salved by buttloads of filthy lucre.

If all I get is my up front pay, then I’d go for the critic’s darling.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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Two “it depends” re the movie poll:

Do I think they’re right to hate the movie, or do I think it’s a really good movie?

How much does this affect my finances? If it doesn’t succeed at the box office, is that going to mean that I’ll wind up homeless and unable to make any more movies? Or is it just ‘oh well, this one bombed financially but a lot of people loved it; on to the next one’?

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Do I think they’re right to hate the movie, or do I think it’s a really good movie?

In retrospect I should have said “box office hit but lacks artistic merit”, which is really the sort of thing I was thinking of (art-versus-commerce). But you can’t edit the options in a poll.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> ‘oh well, this one bombed financially but a lot of people loved it; on to the next one’

Yeah, that. You can recover.

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The data scientists working for me used Slack, and I dipped in from time to time to see what was shaking. But not a persistent user.

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> In retrospect I should have said “box office hit but lacks artistic merit”,

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> Yeah, that. You can recover.

Thanks. Have voted accordingly (I’ll take the good movie people didn’t want to pay for.)

– I have a vague idea who some of them are, but no idea how they originally became famous. Didn’t vote.

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Just to be clearer on Joyce Brothers, contestants were allowed to know in advance what their topic would be, so she and a producer agreed that it would be fun to have her do the hypermasculine sport of boxing. She had great memory, and studied her brains out, and won the $64,000.

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I picked a box office smash that everyone hated, because that’s not really what’s going to happen.

Despite what some posters assume, you can’t have a box office smash if it is universally disliked. You can have a box office smash that “everyone I know” hates, which you may want to define as “everyone”. But I don’t.

You can however have a box office failure that is universally loved by everyone who sees it. (Currently, an example is _The Quiet Girl_, 97% Critics, 91% Audience at Rotten Tomatoes, and is Oscar nominated)

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> I picked a box office smash that everyone hated

I picked it for a different reason. I’m not a movie maker. I have no talent or passion to make a great movie. If I make one, it’s for the money. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings one bit if everyone hated it.

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