# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Sorry to see how the fish are treated while still alive, though.

Oh. Hadn’t thought to look that up and not at all sure that I want to do it now. Maybe I’ll just avoid the stuff – which, at that price and in my location, should be easy.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2323 "2023-03-01T23:19:07Z")

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Easy question about the fish. I don’t like fish. If I was going to eat fish I wouldn’t start with carp.

I went to a Iraqi state dinner once. They were welcoming the first Kuwaiti ambassador since Desert Storm to the country. Got to shake hands with the ambassador. Nice guy. Former general so he was interested in talking to the soldiers there. I wonder if that dish was served? It was a buffet so I would have stayed away.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> > Didn’t your parents ever notice and think to have it checked out?
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> They absolutely noticed; when I was 4 or 5, I was already walking that way, while my baby sister, prior to walking, scooted around the house, rather than crawling. My dad, at the time, apparently joked that he had a son who was going to be a ballet dancer, and a daughter who was going to be a high-rise construction worker (scooting along on steel beams).
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> I wouldn’t be surprised if they brought it up to a pediatrician, who was apparently unconcerned, as i don’t recall ever having any sort of treatment, orthotics, etc.

Toe walking is often a sign of autism. I wonder if they knew that then and were concerned. I’m not trying to diagnose you of course. I know nothing else about you. My daughter did and still does toe walk and she does have ASD.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
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Rotating roof top restaurants. I’ve been to the Seattle Space Needle for meals at least twice. Maybe three times. And the top of the Hyatt in Phoenix in 2001. And I have a dim recollection being in one as a child (so over 50 years ago), somewhere on the East coast. Or maybe Rochester NY, if there was one there.

Someone told me the Space Needle got rid of their restaurant during the last remodel. Apparently it’s a two level observatory now, instead of one.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
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The Space Needle was my first exposure to a rotating restaurant, too. My family attended the World’s Fair the year it opened.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
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> [@Loach](#):
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> Toe walking is often a sign of autism. I wonder if they knew that then and were concerned. I’m not trying to diagnose you of course. I know nothing else about you. My daughter did and still does toe walk and she does have ASD.

Interesting, but my friend was not autistic. IIRC hers was caused by a specific physical issue.

I ate once at the restaurant at the top of the Bonaventure Hotel in DTLA. It rotated so slowly I barely noticed.

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Been to Hersheypark a bunch of times and Universal Orlando once (wife wanted to go to Harry Potter). Local to me are Six Flags America and King’s Dominion, been to both many times, and also been to Lego Land Orlando. I still like fried food and carnival games and spectacle, but I’m probably over roller coasters at this point in my life. Don’t really care that much about Disney parks. Would go to Knott’s Berry Farm and/or Dollywood if ever I found myself near there.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
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> [@carrps](#):
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> It rotated so slowly I barely noticed.

That’s a feature, not a bug. But you should notice your view changing slowly over time. I think the Space Needle took around a hour to do one rotation.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> That’s a feature, not a bug.

Correct. We had a rotating restaurant in Bloomington, MN. I went there on a date eons ago. The thing that messed me up was taking the time to go “powder my nose” and coming back out of the ladies, where the floor didn’t rotate, to find my table and boyfriend was a bit challenging. I went the wrong direction. 😜 🤭

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I have not only been to, but worked at Six Flags over Texas, which is the original.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
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Yeah, I grew up around there. We went quite a lot when I was in high school.

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Would go to Knott’s Berry Farm and/or Dollywood if ever I found myself near there.

Go there instead of Disneyland if you only have time for one. They are very close to one another, so proper hotel choice can get you to both if you have a week to spare.

Dollywood is on my list to see…someday.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Toe walking is often a sign of autism. I wonder if they knew that then and were concerned. I’m not trying to diagnose you of course. I know nothing else about you. My daughter did and still does toe walk and she does have ASD.

Well, this was the late 1960s, and I don’t know if that was a known sign of autism, but no, I’m not autistic, and that was never a concern. I was a very gregarious, happy baby and child, developed my vocal and reading skills very early, and there were never any signs of developmental issues – if anything, I was “gifted,” and I very nearly skipped a grade (2nd or 3rd, I believe), because I was mastering stuff so quickly that I was bored in school. I was just an unathletic klutz.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2334 "2023-03-02T02:48:43Z")

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Besides the parks listed in the poll I’ve been to [Marineland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marineland_of_the_Pacific) in Palos Verdes, California, opening a year before Disneyland, and [Great America](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_Great_America) in Santa Clara.

Also [Legend City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_City) in Phoenix but I doubt anyone who didn’t live here in the twenty years it was open has ever heard of it.

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Did you ever go to Calico Ghost Town, a small old west themed park operated by Knott’s in the Mojave Desert?

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I never went to a lot of theme parks, but I have gone to the Six Flags in Atlanta (one of the originals) and in the north suburbs of Chicago (originally Great America), as well as the now-defunct Opryland in Nashville.

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Yep. Several times, in fact.

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I’d heard of it, but no.

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I’ve been in Knoxville five or six times to help chaperone our state’s Destination Imagination global finalist teams, and I escaped the Dollywood field trip gig every time!

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I haven’t been to any of those theme parks. If there’s an option for “none”, I must have missed it.

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > Toe walking is often a sign of autism. I wonder if they knew that then and were concerned. I’m not trying to diagnose you of course. I know nothing else about you. My daughter did and still does toe walk and she does have ASD.
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> Well, this was the late 1960s, and I don’t know if that was a known sign of autism, but no, I’m not autistic, and that was never a concern. I was a very gregarious, happy baby and child, developed my vocal and reading skills very early, and there were never any signs of developmental issues – if anything, I was “gifted,” and I very nearly skipped a grade (2nd or 3rd, I believe), because I was mastering stuff so quickly that I was bored in school. I was just an unathletic klutz.

I’m not arguing what you are or are not but none of what you listed is an indicator of not having ASD. I don’t know you but I know my daughter. My daughter was slightly behind in speech but was very advanced early. We realized she taught herself to read before we even thought of teaching her ourselves. It doesn’t necessarily show as being behind developmentally. That’s why it’s now called ASD. It’s a spectrum from very mild to very severe. For many you wouldn’t know they were on the spectrum. Some don’t know themselves.

Things like toe walking or stimming are not absolute indicators. There are very few absolute indicators but there are red flags. My daughter toe walked especially when she was distracted and not thinking of what she was doing. She has ASD. That doesn’t mean everyone who did the same has ASD. Nowadays if you mention that to a doctor it will make them look deeper.

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