# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2462 "2023-03-06T16:34:56Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I picked **kaiju** because 1) They are easier to spot and therefore 2) easier to kill.

Same.

You never see a movie where the protagonists have to spend a lot of time convincing the authorities that Godzilla is real. It’s always really obvious what the problem is.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2463 "2023-03-06T17:32:53Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> We don’t have a pantry _per se_, but we have a laundry room just off the kitchen that has enough room for a couple of pantry shelves, which we put in.

The house I grew up in had a closet that we always referred to as “the pantry”, but which doesn’t meet the definition of pantry stated in the poll. It was originally intended to be a coat closet, until my parents had the carport enclosed and turned into another room, and put a new coat closet in there. Then they ripped the hanger bar out of the kitchen closet and put pantry shelves in there, and henceforth that space was know as the pantry in our house.

But the house I live in now doesn’t have anything that could remotely be called a pantry, so I voted “no” in the poll.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2464 "2023-03-06T17:38:06Z")

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I’ve got a living room closet we don’t use that shares a wall with the kitchen. I’ve been meaning to turn it into a pantry for years but have just never gotten around to it. I’d have to move an HVAC vent is the PITA part of it that I’m procrastinating on. The rest of it is simply cutting out the wall, framing in and hanging the door, drywalling over where the door is currently, and painting. All of that I’m comfortable doing myself, but I’ll probably just end up hiring someone to do it next time I get a chunk of money.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2465 "2023-03-06T17:41:16Z")

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It does depend a bit on what kind of werewolf we’re talking about. But it would be fascinating to have info from speaking humans on what a wolf’s sensory world would be like, if they could remember while human; some versions of werecreatures are fairly reasonable and in control even when in the non-human form; and in any case I don’t see how they’d be all that much harder to deal with, even if murderous in wolf form, than current human predators, which unfortunately do exist. They’d be physically tougher, but not that far out of the range.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2466 "2023-03-06T17:41:31Z")

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Our kitchen “pantry” was built from what used to be the bottom of a stairwell which went up to the second floor of our house; it likely became a pantry when the house was remodeled, and the stairway relocated, in the 1960s.

It’s essentially a closet, and not a walk-in at all.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2467 "2023-03-06T17:58:15Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> No cut off crusts for me growing up.

Me, either. I had some schoolmates whose lunch sandwiches has no crusts and I thought it was totally weird.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2468 "2023-03-06T17:59:03Z")

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As a child, I would spend part of my summers in a house that, I think, had a genuine pantry. It was the size of a walk in closet and had shelves on which all sorts of foodstuffs were stored. The reasons I think, looking back, that it was a designed pantry are:

The house was built in about the 1920’s. There was no air conditioning when I stayed there in the 60’s.

The pantry was always the coldest room in the house (in the summer, sometimes I’d go in and lay on the floor because of this).

It was the coolest room because it was A) on the north side of the building, B) had shrubbery shading the outside wall, and C) had no windows, but did have a small window width slot about 6" high open to the outside at the bottom of the north wall (with wire mesh keeping all but the smallest insects out).

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2469 "2023-03-06T18:04:45Z")

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For the poll “Movies you have **never** seen, but still know enough about that you understand cultural references to”, I’d be interested to know for the movies people _didn’t_ select, if it was because they actually have seen them, or if they don’t know enough about them to understand cultural references to them. But creating another poll to determine that would entail repeating the original poll two more times, one for “I’ve seen these movies” and one for “I don’t understand references to these movies”. And that’s a lot of movies to list. I’m loo lazy to do it right now. I wish there was a way to just copy and paste the code for the poll.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2470 "2023-03-06T18:07:04Z")

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I’m not sure how to answer the sofa bed poll. We have one and **DR** sleeps on it, but she doesn’t fold it out, feeling more secure surrounded by the back and arms.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2471 "2023-03-06T18:10:29Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> I’d be interested to know for the movies people _didn’t_ select, if it was because they actually have seen them, or if they don’t know enough about them to understand cultural references to them.

As with a previous poster. I had seen every movie on the list except Rosemary’s Baby. However, I have always loved the movies and there are a significant number of obscure movies I’ve never seen, but can identify based on a quote or a single scene.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2472 "2023-03-06T18:15:34Z")

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We just moved into a brand new house. The modal has an _enormous_ walk-in pantry. We sacrificed some of that space in favor of a larger laundry room (totally worth it), but the pantry is still a walk-in, and still bigger than any we’d previously had.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2473 "2023-03-06T18:18:59Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> I’d be interested to know for the movies people _didn’t_ select, if it was because they actually have seen them, or if they don’t know enough about them to understand cultural references to them.

I want back and looked – anything I didn’t select, it was because I’ve seen it.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2474 "2023-03-06T18:28:57Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> For the poll “Movies you have **never** seen, but still know enough about that you understand cultural references to”, I’d be interested to know for the movies people _didn’t_ select, if it was because they actually have seen them, or if they don’t know enough about them to understand cultural references to them.

Certainly some of each for me.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2475 "2023-03-06T18:33:10Z")

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I used to have a sofa-bed. But in over a decade the bed was never used. So when I replaced it, I got a regular sofa.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2476 "2023-03-06T18:39:46Z")

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We have a sofabed, which we bought about 25 years ago. The mattress in it isn’t great, and it’s not been used often, largely because we also have a guest room, with a real bed.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> For the poll “Movies you have **never** seen, but still know enough about that you understand cultural references to”, I’d be interested to know for the movies people _didn’t_ select, if it was because they actually have seen them, or if they don’t know enough about them to understand cultural references to them.

Some of them I’d seen. Some of them I didn’t think I’d recognize much of any references to; so some of both.

The ones I did select, I’d expect to recognize some references, but also to miss some of them.

@peccavi: that certainly sounds to me, also, like a pantry built for the purpose. And as long as it was big enough to walk into it would fit in my definitions. But I gather you’re not living there now.

My house used to have one, a nice big one all along the north side of the kitchen; and I suspect it may also have had a sink (I’ve seen an occasional old house with a sink in the pantry, and think that some may not originally have also had one in the kitchen.) But the wall separating it from the kitchen was removed long before I got here, (I like the large kitchen and didn’t put it back in), and the sink, if any, was long gone; though there’s a bit of drain pipe in the basement in the right place to have gone to a sink in that location.

ETA: I don’t have a sofa bed by that definition. I do, however, have two daybeds, each of which has a second mattress which slides out from underneath, but both of which generally function as sofas.

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> When I started preferring whole grain breads

I still don’t prefer whole grain breads, although i like them from time to time for variety. (One year my husband baked all our bread, and mostly made whole wheat bread. That year i came to understand why white flour was once a luxury good, and haven’t generally preferred whole grain ever since. Although a mediocre whole grain is often better than styrofoam white.)

But sour dough. Baguette. Jewish rye bread with caraway seeds. Challah. A nice crusty loaf of home made traditional white bread…

Those all have delicious crusts. My household also often cuts off a lot of “heels” from irregularly shaped loaves before anyone takes a slice that’s just interior.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2479 "2023-03-06T20:05:35Z")

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I am the one (?) who selected “seen all the movies”, but now I am wondering if I really have seen “Soylant Green”, or do I just _think_ I’ve seen it.

I will watch it the next opportunity to maintain integrity of the poll. 🙂

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2480 "2023-03-06T20:13:28Z")

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On that note, I wasn’t sure how to answer for _Die Hard_, because I know I’ve seen parts of it here and there, like when it was on TV and I came across it channel surfing, but I don’t think I have ever sat down and watched it in its entirety from beginning to end. I just checked and it looks like I didn’t select it in the poll, but maybe I should have. Like I said, I don’t think I’ve actually seen the whole move, but I do get at least some references to it.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/2481 "2023-03-06T20:24:28Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Plus, they usually attack Japan first.

Way to think ahead. If I had thought of that, I wouldn’t have chosen zombies. 🙁

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