# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/301 "2022-11-14T17:34:24Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > I tend to skip those polls. They read to me like: if you’re not for me, then you are against me. I hate that crap, especially when the answer isn’t black or white. I’ve posted some “no other options” poll. My reason for doing so is to push people into deciding where they stand on an issue. A lot of times people can equivocate on any issue and look for some choice that allows them to cover all possible options. I understand that the choice between chocolate and vanilla can depend on the circumstances. You might like one more than the other depending on what it’s being used for. Your decision might depend on the quality of the flavoring that’s available. Maybe you choose differently depending on your mood or for the sake of variety. These are all legitimate points. But when you’re standing at the front of a long line at the ice cream stand, you need to pick one and move on. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/302 "2022-11-14T17:38:29Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > After that, just plain cream cheese, followed by butter. Although if I’m eating a more dessert-y / sweet bagel, compound butters (apple, honey) or cream cheese options (honey, walnut, etc) quickly take over from the plain options. My favorite bagel choice (back before I cut back on the carbs) was cream cheese and cheez-whiz. Yes, I am white trash. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/303 "2022-11-14T17:41:21Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > I voted for Fillmore largely due to the persuasions of the **S** ociety for the **P** reservation and **E** nhancement of the **R** eputation of **M** illard **F** illmore I hope these people are just embracing irony and not actually supporting Fillmore’s policies, which were pretty deplorable. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/304 "2022-11-14T17:57:00Z")
I didn’t vote in that one, because what i really want is for trump to get out of politics and for the Republican party to become sane. And I’m not convinced that trump going to prison even helps. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/305 "2022-11-14T19:16:18Z")
**Full quote restored by me** > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > [@mbh](#): > > > > I voted for Fillmore largely due to the persuasions of the **S** ociety for the **P** reservation and **E** nhancement of the **R** eputation of **M** illard **F** illmore, **L** ast **O** f the **W** higs. > > I hope these people are just embracing irony and not actually supporting Fillmore’s policies, which were pretty deplorable. Judging by the Acronym, I should hope so. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/306 "2022-11-14T19:29:18Z")
A fellow history nerd and I like to joke about founding a Society for Deservedly Obscure Presidents. Not a funny acronym, but Fillmore would definitely be among those thus “honored.” ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/307 "2022-11-14T19:38:18Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Society for Deservedly Obscure Presidents Which of course brings to mind this _Simpsons_ clip: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/r8N7BSsU5oo/hqdefault.jpg "Mediocre Presidents") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8N7BSsU5oo) ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/308 "2022-11-14T19:45:14Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Which of course brings to mind this _Simpsons_ clip: which makes me think of They Might Be Giants 😉 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/H9SvJMZs5Rs/hqdefault.jpg "They Might Be Giants - James K. Polk") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9SvJMZs5Rs) ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/309 "2022-11-14T19:53:54Z")
Re: the NFL draft poll, i can’t imagine any GM taking a deal like that. Though teams routinely trade for future draft picks, they’re usually for one or two years out. Are there any sports nerds here who know the furthest out a future pick has been traded? ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/310 "2022-11-14T19:55:01Z")
Draft pick trades are limited to three years out. Beyond that, teams can’t trade future picks. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/311 "2022-11-14T21:12:11Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I hope these people are just embracing irony and not actually supporting Fillmore’s policies, which were pretty deplorable. > [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Judging by the Acronym, I should hope so. I think their main goal is to try to trick newspapers into printing the acronym. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/312 "2022-11-14T22:10:12Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But when you’re standing at the front of a long line at the ice cream stand, you need to pick one and move on. Or just step out of line, empty handed. It’s effective, too. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/313 "2022-11-14T22:12:40Z")
“Step out of line, empty handed.” I don’t understand. It’s an _ice cream_ line. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/314 "2022-11-14T23:42:15Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > IWC?? > > Yes, discourse, this is a complete question. [Irregular Webcomic](https://irregularwebcomic.net/) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/315 "2022-11-16T15:07:58Z")
Who are these “grilled cheese” people? The BLT is infinitely superior, especially with thin-sliced home grown tomatoes fresh from the garden and a liberal application of Duke’s. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/316 "2022-11-16T15:10:12Z")
Agreed. The BLT is simply the perfect sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/317 "2022-11-16T15:56:51Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Who are these “grilled cheese” people? The BLT is infinitely superior, especially with thin-sliced home grown tomatoes fresh from the garden and a liberal application of Duke’s. Now you got me questioning myself. mmm ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/318 "2022-11-16T17:34:34Z")
Mmmm. I voted for the grilled cheese because while not impossible, it’s really hard to screw up. Even mediocre cheese and bread will make an okay GC, while great ingredients are a thing of wonder. With a BLT - well, it is also a thing of wonder with great ingredients, but once you get to middling… yeah, it gets crappy _fast_. Flavorless store tomatoes, limp lettuce, miracle whip, bacon so cheap it only tastes of salt, and the same risk of flavorless bread a GC has. So all in all, the GC edged out the win for me due to the reduced quality variance - but if we were talking about all the variables (beyond a poll only question) it would get a LOT more nuanced. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/319 "2022-11-16T17:38:21Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The BLT is infinitely superior, especially with thin-sliced home grown tomatoes fresh from the garden and a liberal application of Duke’s. I’m not a fan of tomatoes on a sandwich. (I can tolerate them, but not a fan) Also, BLT’s usually have mayo, which I despise. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/320 "2022-11-16T18:00:40Z")
A BLT is a summer sandwich, for eating when fresh homegrown tomatoes are in season. Since it is currently autumn in the northern hemisphere and good tomatoes are not in season, a grilled cheese is the better choice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=17)