# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/321 "2022-11-16T18:02:03Z")

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I don’t know what Duke’s is.

And, if you’re going to specify heirloom tomatoes properly grown and ripened, yes, I’ll go for that sandwich. But, in season, I also put them on my grilled cheese.

And yes, if I’m buying the thing at a random diner, they’re far less likely to screw up the grilled cheese. Even Velveeta on Wonder Bread is edible, if minimally (YMMV). Limp all-fat-and-salt bacon with a grocery store slice of something red and one of soggy iceberg on that same Wonder Bread would be far worse.

Plus which – I like good bacon, and eat it occasionally. But I don’t think of it as an essential food group. Cheese, on the other hand –

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/322 "2022-11-16T18:03:52Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I don’t know what Duke’s is.

A brand of mayo only available in the South. Southerners swear it’s superior to other brands.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/323 "2022-11-16T18:05:09Z")

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No, Duke’s is available in the north as well.

mmm

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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Ah. Thanks for info.

I think mayo etc. choice has a lot to do with what you grew up with. I grew up with, and like, Hellmann’s; though I’ve had some homemade that was amazing.

> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> Duke’s is available in the north as well.

If I see it somewhere, maybe I’ll try it; but I don’t think I ever have.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/325 "2022-11-16T18:08:09Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> No, Duke’s is available in the north as well.

Indeed it is. I can buy it in several stores in the upper Midwest.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/326 "2022-11-16T18:17:06Z")

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Grilled cheese with bacon on whole wheat is a better sandwich than any BLT. When accompanied by a bowl of tomato soup, it ascends to godhood among sandwiches. It is known.

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/327 "2022-11-16T18:31:00Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Who are these “grilled cheese” people?

Grilled cheese with a slice of home-grown tomato is food of the gods. I even ordered a grilled cheese sandwich at a restaurant known for its steak. Without mayo, of course.

Anything with mayo, any mayo, is inherently inferior.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> But, in season, I also put them on my grilled cheese.

My kind of people. I never put tomato on grilled cheese until my mother-in-law made one for me. It’s the only cooking tip (not really a recipe) than I have learned from her.

Back to bagels, my last boss in New Jersey would get bagels from Paterson and put both butter and cream cheese on his.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/328 "2022-11-16T18:40:36Z")

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A friend of my sister puts butter on Pop-Tarts. I understand it’s a Maryland thing…?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/329 "2022-11-16T18:43:48Z")

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I don’t, by the way, put mayo on my grilled cheese. Mustard, and a bit of butter in the pan. (I don’t actually do mine on a grill, I do them on the stovetop in a covered cast iron pan, or occasionally open faced under a broiler. I’ll happily eat them grilled, though; although preferably with minimal if any burn marks.)

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/330 "2022-11-16T18:51:15Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I don’t, by the way, put mayo on my grilled cheese.

A trick I learned from NPR’s _The Splendid Table_ a few years ago – spread mayo on the _outside_ of a grilled cheese sandwich, instead of butter, before grilling. Since mayo is actually mostly oil, and more spreadable than butter, it gives you that nice golden crispy texture on the outside of the bread better than butter.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/331 "2022-11-16T18:55:58Z")

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I don’t spread the butter on the bread; I just put a little in the pan.

Seems to me that mayo would give a different flavor. Do restaurants usually do that? Or do they just grill with a bit of oil brushed on? I have eaten restaurant grilled cheese, and it’s generally been worth eating, though I like mine better (probably because you can’t always get good sharp cheddar on them at a restaurant, though.)

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/332 "2022-11-16T19:00:48Z")

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Cheese makes everything better.  
Skip the lettuce and give me a BCT.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/333 "2022-11-16T19:02:48Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I don’t spread the butter on the bread; I just put a little in the pan.

I got that, but I know a lot of other people spread the butter on the bread.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Seems to me that mayo would give a different flavor. Do restaurants usually do that?

I don’t notice any difference in flavor when I use it. If there is it’s very subtle. I don’t know if most restaurants do it, although the tip did come from a chef who was a guest on the show, IIRC.

And there may be other advantages to using mayo instead of butter that I am forgetting. It may be that the oils in mayo have a higher smoke point and are less likely to burn than butter.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/334 "2022-11-16T19:05:11Z")

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I didn’t recognize Vernee Watson’s name, but when I did a Google image search on her (prior to @Elendil_s_Heir 's follow-up poll), I said, “oh, yeah, she’s been playing that same kind of supporting role for decades!”

[![](https://images.mubicdn.net/images/cast_member/190657/cache-374135-1537869576/image-w856.jpg?size=800x) ](https://images.mubicdn.net/images/cast_member/190657/cache-374135-1537869576/image-w856.jpg?size=800x)

> [@Polls only: No discussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-only-no-discussion/953642/2367):
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> Vernee Watson (AKA Vernee Watson-Johnson) appears in a TON of TV shows (frequently as a nurse.) When you see her, do you think, OH, it’s that woman from “Welcome Back, Kotter”! [poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-only-no-discussion/953642/2367)

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/335 "2022-11-16T19:12:49Z")

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I voted

“the person posting the poll should make it clear that others will be able to see which option(s) you selected”

But i think discourse does that adequately, and i certainly didn’t mean to imply the person posting the poll needs to take some extra step to tell you.

Maybe i voted wrong?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/336 "2022-11-16T19:16:02Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> But i think discourse does that adequately, and i certainly didn’t mean to imply the person posting the poll needs to take some extra step to tell you.

I never noticed the public poll notice. I think it would be nice to include “(your vote will be public)”

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/337 "2022-11-16T19:31:13Z")

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Whereas i think that’s superfluous, and wastes space.  
🤷

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/338 "2022-11-16T20:51:49Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> > [@puzzlegal](#):
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> > But i think discourse does that adequately, and i certainly didn’t mean to imply the person posting the poll needs to take some extra step to tell you.
> 
> I never noticed the public poll notice. I think it would be nice to include “(your vote will be public)”

Now that you’ve noticed the notice, maybe you will notice the notice in future polls and a lack of an additional notice will not be noticed?

mmm

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/339 "2022-11-16T21:29:09Z")

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I did vote in the last two, but they’re both seriously missing options.

@Velocity’s leaving out everybody who doesn’t identify, and/or doesn’t want to identify, clearly as either male or female.

@Susan’s leaving out ‘celebrate a strange mix of several of the above that isn’t really like any of them’, which is what I would have selected instead of ‘two or more of the above’. I did vote ‘two or more of the above’, but I’m not celebrating any of them in anything resembling a standard fashion; but I am celebrating. And I’m not celebrating ‘something else altogether’ because I am incorporating portions of ‘two or more of the above’.

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/340 "2022-11-16T21:32:06Z")

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Ask and you shall receive.

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