# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3802 "2023-05-03T13:28:24Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Not sure but I think Russian? I found this link referencing it.
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> [Z is for Zombies: The Decimation](http://uvmzombies.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-decimation.html?m=1)
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> Apparently this is a real thing that was done.

I still don’t remember that happening in the book, so thanks for the reminder. I vaguely recall having read about the Roman precedent. Doesn’t seem very smart militarily to reduce your own forces by a tenth, but if it forestalls a possibly war-losing collapse of discipline, I suppose it might be the least-bad option for a ruthless general.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
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Every day I do (in order of how much I like them):

Squareword  
Squardle  
Framed  
Actorle  
[Chess.com](http://Chess.com) puzzles  
Spelling Bee

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3804 "2023-05-03T14:39:29Z")

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I usually do wordle and quordle. I tried square word, but didn’t care for it.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
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LA Times crossword puzzle. Old school rules

[![](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/34/75/61/347561182b6fb0dc1e1a947c0e8b976d--the-egg-the-chicken.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/34/75/61/347561182b6fb0dc1e1a947c0e8b976d--the-egg-the-chicken.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3806 "2023-05-03T15:50:57Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I tried square word, but didn’t care for it.

The fact that your five across words also have to create five down words turns it into a bit more of a puzzle, at least for me. It does also feature an interesting Indian twist - rupee, saris, and crore are somewhat common words.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3807 "2023-05-03T16:30:45Z")

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> [@Zyada](#):
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> I play a daily game called Framed. Guess the movie from movie stills.

That sounds like fun! We once played a PC-based game similar to this years and years ago at a friend’s party. My friend is a huge movie buff, and he was po’d that I’d beaten him.

I’ve never even thought about memorizing pi numbers. It would never occur to me.

ETA: I don’t regularly play any games, but I like doing jigsaw puzzles on jigidi.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> The fact that your five across words also have to create five down words turns it into a bit more of a puzzle, at least for me. It does also feature an interesting Indian twist - rupee, saris, and crore are somewhat common words.

I found that I was often solving it was a Quordle with a bit more information. But basically, playing Quordle with 5 words and less convenient access to the scores. If I’d really used the crossword feature more I might have enjoyed it more. But mostly I didn’t.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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The first egg that hatched into something we would call a chicken must have been laid by a creature who we wouldn’t quite call a chicken.

So the egg comes first.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3810 "2023-05-03T19:17:30Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> So the egg comes first.

It’s even more obvious if you interpret “the egg” to mean _any_ egg, and not necessarily a chicken egg.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3811 "2023-05-03T20:42:02Z")

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@thorny_locust and @Thudlow_Boink gave both of my discussion points to the Chicken V Egg debate before I made it to the thread. It’s one of the easier ones to argue after all. 🙂

Although, if I wanted to get nitpicky I _could_ make the argument for the chicken (this is the SDMB after all).

First, rephrase it as what came first, the chicken or the chicken egg, to deal with TB’s answer.

Then, working from the POV of evolutionary activity (TL’s point), at some point the first pre-chicken had a series of mutations in their parental or maternal genes that allowed for the creation of the first True Chicken. Said genetic creation was a true chicken genetically after the successful replication of the embryo, even if it hadn’t hatched yet. So the true Chicken came first, which eventually became the first chicken Egg (back to TB), and eventually was released into the world via hatching.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3812 "2023-05-03T20:57:11Z")

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But as it’s usually phrased (“the chicken or the egg”), obviously there were eggs (of various animals) long before there were chickens.

nm, ninjaed by Thudlow\_Boink

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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In setting up the favorite Doper meme poll, I initially had “3. Profit!” as one of the options. The “3.” threw things off somehow, so I deleted it - but Discourse wouldn’t let me. Despite the “3.” not appearing the editing box now, the word “Profit!” is still pushed down one line and appears larger for some reason.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3814 "2023-05-03T22:05:11Z")

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I think of Profit! and Band Name! as generic, but I definitely had Hi, Opal! in mind as a Dope meme when I saw the topic.

I see that throwing rocks into a quarry didn’t even make the list. Which is fine, because I wouldn’t have voted for it, but “lol”.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3815 "2023-05-03T22:11:21Z")

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Hi, Opal! was a favorite. Not mentioned here, but another favorite of of mine is cow-orker.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3816 "2023-05-03T22:15:48Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> working from the POV of evolutionary activity (TL’s point), at some point the first pre-chicken had a series of mutations in their parental or maternal genes that allowed for the creation of the first True Chicken. Said genetic creation was a true chicken genetically after the successful replication of the embryo, even if it hadn’t hatched yet. So the true Chicken came first, which eventually became the first chicken Egg

If the mutation was in the ova – the ova is an egg, even before fertilization. And even if the mutation was in the sperm – the fertilized ova is still an egg; it’s just a fertilized egg. It doesn’t wait to become an egg until it comes out of the cloaca. And the male bird who produced that sperm wasn’t himself a chicken; nor was the female bird who had that mutation in one of her eggs.

> [@carnut](#):
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> Not mentioned here, but another favorite of of mine is cow-orker.

I don’t think that’s Dope-specific. I’m about 99% sure I saw that elsewhere long before I got here.

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I don’t think that’s Dope-specific.

I think it is, actually. It migrated elsewhere. I’ve been following for a long, long time.

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I don’t think that’s Dope-specific. I’m about 99% sure I saw that elsewhere long before I got here.

I remember it from the old Salon Table Talk.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/3819 "2023-05-03T22:29:34Z")

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You might be right. Urban Dictionary has it back at least as far as 2008, but doesn’t say where they think it started. – @carrps is maybe further back than that? I don’t know when “the old Salon Table Talk” would have been.

It occurs to me that it might easily have started in several places.

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On another topic: It depends. Is the job boring, and I’m eager for distractions? Does the job require concentration, and interruptions screw me up? Is the chatty supervisor good at deciding when to chat? Do I find their chat interesting? How many people do I generally talk to otherwise in the day at work? Outside of work?

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> You might be right. Urban Dictionary has it back at least as far as 2008, but doesn’t say where they think it started. – @carrps is maybe further back than that?

Oh, yeah, it could have easily been that far back. Even farther maybe. TT ended back in 2011 and started in 1996 or so.

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