# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
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I generally don’t wear shoes when I’m in the house; I prefer being in socks, and the only reason I’ll keep my shoes on for more than a few minutes when I’m inside is if I plan to go back outside soon.

We don’t have a house rule about “no shoes” inside, and I wouldn’t ask a guest to take their shoes off, unless their shoes were wet/salty/muddy (a typical condition when coming inside in the winter).

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Why is it that men “Urinate”, but women “Use the toilet” ?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Friend who have a strict “no shoes” rule and who also garden or have pets generally have some footwear that’s easy to don and doff that lives next to the door.

Are none of their outdoor shoes timeconsuming to remove and replace?

But in any case: yeah, different people are going to do different things.

I don’t think I met anybody with a no-shoes-in-the-house rule until I was maybe in my 30’s; though I knew some people who preferred to be barefoot inside and out by my late teens. And I clearly remember it being considered rude to take your shoes off in somebody else’s house; at least, unless they’d visibly taken theirs off first, which, with adults, rarely happened.

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> [@pjd](#):
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> Why is it that men “Urinate”, but women “Use the toilet” ?

– oh, in that poll! Good question.

I am a woman; I have lived both with and without men in the household. In either case, when it’s my house, I want both the lid and the seat left down. If I’m in somebody else’s house, I try to leave both lid and seat however I found them.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
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When I micturate, I try to remember to put the lid down, but it’s hit or miss.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
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Because when men defecate, the seat is already down. That case could have generated a whole separate set of choices, but it doesn’t seem that interesting so I didn’t bother to complicate the poll with it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@pjd](#):
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> Why is it that men “Urinate”, but women “Use the toilet” ?

For the same reason that horses sweat, men perspire and women dew.

In cold weather I’m usually in socks and slippers indoors. In warm weather I’m usually barefoot or in sandals.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
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Male; I live in the same household as a woman (my wife). I’ve always left the seat down after using the toilet; it’s a courtesy, and I’ve never understood guys who insist on leaving it up.

I started always putting the lid back down, as well, about twenty years ago, when we got a cat who, we discovered, loved to play in the toilet water. After a few incidents when one or the other of us went to use the toilet, and discovered a drowned cat toy in there (and the one time that said toy had red-dyed fur, which made it look like something had bled to death in the toilet), we got into the habit of always putting the lid down when the toilet isn’t in use.

That cat passed away five years ago, but we still keep the lid down, especially because we know that our new cats love to hide their toys in various places, and we don’t need more drowned cat toys.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> > [@puzzlegal](#):
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> > Friend who have a strict “no shoes” rule and who also garden or have pets generally have some footwear that’s easy to don and doff that lives next to the door.
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> Are none of their outdoor shoes timeconsuming to remove and replace?

No doubt some are, but for times when they are going in and out, they have shoes that are quick to remove and replace. I visited a friend with a “no shoes” rule recently, and my shoes were enough of a nuisance that when she offered me water and a chat, i suggested the backyard so i didn’t have to fix with my shoes again. (I walked around the house.) She popped her walking shoes off, and wore her outdoor sandals when she returned with the water.

Anyway, it’s become increasingly common among my friends, enough that when i visit people i ask if they want me to remove my shoes.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
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Because women always sit, but men usually urinate standing up and defecate sitting down.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> For the same reason that horses sweat, men perspire and women dew.

I’d always heard it as “women glow.”

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I’d always heard it as “women glow.”

Same here, though my brain now automatically appends “and men plunder” to that phrase. 😉

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LOL.

There was only one other respondent when I did the diner poll, and that person had all the same responses as me, except they chose grits instead of hash browns.

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> [@carrps](#):
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> > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > For the same reason that horses sweat, men perspire and women dew.
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> I’d always heard it as “women glow.”

Ditto

I love bacon, but restaurants usually overcook it so I picked steak.

I usually take my shoes off immediately when I walk into the house, unless I’m making another trip (as when bringing in groceries). Then I take my hat and glasses off, and then my shirt, before doing anything else.

I always leave both seat and lid down. One of my gripes about the ex was that she didn’t always close the lid.

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> I love bacon, but restaurants usually overcook it so I picked steak.

I like bacon, and I prefer it very crisp. I usually have to tell them that to get it as crisp as I want. So, I have the opposite problem. I tend to avoid steak in diners, because it’s usually fairly tough and sinewy.

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I’ve always left the seat down after using the toilet; it’s a courtesy, and I’ve never understood guys who insist on leaving it up.

And I’ve never understood this view. If it’s a courtesy for a man to lower the seat after use, isn’t it also a courtesy for a woman to raise the seat after her use? I say leave the seat alone after you use it. The next user may or may not have to change it regardless of how you left it, so leaving it alone minimizes total effort.

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> [@carrps](#):
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> Yeah. I said I wear shoes in the house, but it’s essentially “house shoes.” Ones that don’t go outside. I have foot problems, and not wearing shoes exacerbates the problem.

This, exactly. I have a pair of “house Birkies” because the have the arch support I need. Frankly though, when I get back to having my own place, I just won’t take my shoes off at the door.

Toilet seat stays down, lid is usually up.

Brekkie: eggs over easy, bacon, hashbrowns or toast (my preferred option of broccoli wasn’t offered), tea, and even though I can’t order it because of statins, my juice preference is grapefruit.

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Falling in when you stumble into the bathroom at night is worse than having to lift the seat, or having to mop up the edge of the seat.

Honestly, i think the right answer is to always leave the seat and lid in the same, predictable, position, every time. Which position that is is less important than that it be the same.

At home i leave seat down, lid up. Visiting friends i leave the toilet the way i found it.

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The choice of meat depends on the restaurant. In some places the bacon is better; in other places, the sausage is better. Most places in my town serve both hash-browns and some bread choice.

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I confess that I did not know that changing the cabin air filter was a thing. Prompted by the poll, I went and bought one, and replaced it easy peasy…the old one was certainly a mess.

I just ordered one for my daughter’s car and will do that as well.

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Eggs, “scrambled,” but I don’t like the way everywhere makes scrambled eggs; I _hate_ that homogeneous yellow lump they bring out. I want more of a marbled kind of thing where there are clear pieces of white and yellow, and the closest I can get a restaurant to do that without a long explanation that they’re still going to ignore is “over hard,” and I just cut and mix it up at the table.

Sausage if it’s pork links, bacon if the sausage is anything besides pork links.

Hashbrowns. Coffee. Orange, no pulp. If they only have pulpy orange, apple I guess. Though I would only ever get coffee _or_ juice, never both.

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