# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 247
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4924 "2023-06-17T15:02:28Z")
I went skydiving with some friends 30-ish years ago. We had a choice between a 10,000 foot tandem jump with a free fall or a 3,000 foot static-line solo jump. I wanted the 10,000 foot jump but was outvoted because the 3,000 was cheaper. It was a blast. My only complaint was that it was over too soon. I always wanted to go back and do the higher jump but never did. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4925 "2023-06-17T15:06:37Z")
So what do you call it if you’re not using either part, just describing it to someone else? “I really like my oven.” “I really like my stove.” I’d go with oven. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4926 "2023-06-17T15:16:22Z")
Hmm, it’s the best oven I’ve ever owned, by a long shot, but it’s only “fine” as a stove. And i guess i mostly refer to the two parts separately, too. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4927 "2023-06-17T15:20:35Z")
You could go all fancy and call it a “range.” ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4928 "2023-06-17T15:57:37Z")
The emergency vehicle warning, I guess. The other one just seems like not a great idea. There’s already the pedestrian signal with the countdown, adding something else that turns the signal into a drag race tree is probably unwise. I call it a “stove” but I know that it is a “range.” Happy birthday Karen. As a teen I had a lot of friends who worked at various movie theaters, as did my brother, so I pretty much got in to see anything I wanted. My experience was even if I didn’t know the person in the ticket booth, they really didn’t care. And it’s not like I had an “old face” or anything, I very much looked like a teenager as a teenager. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4929 "2023-06-17T16:19:26Z")
I’ve been in a reasonable number of countries that use amber as an indicator of lights changing in both ways. It hasn’t been challenging or confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4930 "2023-06-17T16:50:02Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > And i guess i mostly refer to the two parts separately, too. I guess I should have worded the question more carefully. I was after what you call the entire unit. Like, if you need a new one, for example. Do you say you need a new stove? A new oven? A new range? A new thermo food-cooking apparatus? mmm ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4931 "2023-06-17T16:57:05Z")
My stove has a range on top, with an oven under that. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4932 "2023-06-17T17:02:32Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > For what reason would we need to know that the traffic light is going to turn green at any moment? Someone once told me that in places where the majority of drivers drive cars with manual transmissions, it’s the signal that it’s time to shift into first gear and get ready to go. Re: R rated movies, I’ve never been denied entry when _I_ was under 17. But when _South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut_ came out it generated a huge outcry in my conservative Southern community. Any other R rated movie they wouldn’t have bothered checking, but they were strictly checking ids for South Park. I was old enough at the time, but some other people I went to see it with were not, so they denied entry to the whole group (I guess technically I could have seen it by myself without them, though). We tried buying tickets to a different movie and then sneaking in to see South Park, but they actually had a bouncer outside that theater checking tickets, and he caught us sneaking in when we thought he wasn’t looking, and we had to watch the movie we actually had tickets for. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4933 "2023-06-17T17:12:17Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > My stove has a range on top, with an oven under that. So, imagine you need help moving it, what would you say? “Hey, can you help me move my…?” mmm ETA: Unless you actually say, “Hey, can you help me move my stove with a range on top, with an oven under that?” ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4934 "2023-06-17T17:17:44Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > Any other R rated movie they wouldn’t have bothered checking, but they were strictly checking ids for South Park. Maybe because they watched the movie and saw what happens when you let underage kids into an R-rated movie? ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4935 "2023-06-17T17:20:03Z")
If I’m referring to the whole unit, I call it a stove. If I’m talking about a specific activity, such as, baking or heating a pot of soup, I’ll refer to the oven or the burner. When I was a really little kid, maybe up to kindergarten age, I (we) called the couch a davenport. Then, never again after that. I might use sofa on rare occasions. I only refer to an actual Chesterfield as a Chesterfield. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4936 "2023-06-17T18:06:26Z")
A Chesterfield is what Mom smoked. A sofa is what rich folks had. We had a couch. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4937 "2023-06-17T18:14:25Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > I was after what you call the entire unit. Mine _are_ two different items. There’s a gas range on the counter, with cabinets underneath. The oven is built into the wall off to the side. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4938 "2023-06-17T18:23:08Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > e: R rated movies, I’ve never been denied entry when _I_ was under 17. But when _South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut_ came out it generated a huge outcry in my conservative Southern community. Any other R rated movie they wouldn’t have bothered checking, but they were strictly checking ids for South Park. I was old enough at the time, but some other people I went to see it with were not, so they denied entry to the whole group (I guess technically I could have seen it by myself without them, though). I had a funny incident when Interview With A Vampire came out. Having never heard of a R rated horror movie before, on Veteran’s day I (17) decided to go with a friend (almost 16) and my brother (11), and the only theater in the area playing it was Bedford, which I hadn’t been to in years so I didn’t know they were much stricter about ages than closer theaters. When we went to the ticket window, everyone handed me their money, and I tried to buy the tickets. In what turned out to be the only time ever even though I looked very young for my age, I was carded before they let me buy movie tickets. Fine, I **was** 17, so I handed over my ID. The girl at the window looked at my ID, looked at my friend and my brother, shrugged, and handed over 3 tickets. I could see _maybe_ believing my friend just looked young too, but an 11-year-old who obviously wasn’t with a guardian? lol ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4939 "2023-06-17T18:29:47Z")
Appliance manufacturers define the stove/oven/range distinction on their websites, but acknowledge that “stove” and “range” are often used interchangeably. [From Whirlpool’s website](https://www.whirlpool.com/blog/kitchen/range-vs-stove-vs-oven.html): > [@](#): > > The words range, stove and oven get thrown around interchangeably, but there are differences that are important to understand. When it comes to kitchen appliances, an oven is an enclosed cavity for baking, a stovetop or cooktop is an open, flat surface you cook on, and a range or stove is the standalone appliance with both. > [@](#): > > If you call a range a stove people will know what you mean. In modern times, the terms stove and range are often used interchangeably to describe the familiar appliance that has an oven cavity for baking and a cooktop above for heating pots and pans. Some good friends of mine live here in the U.S., but grew up in Ireland; a while back, I discovered that the word which they use for the “all-in-one device” isn’t range, nor stove, but “cooker.” ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4940 "2023-06-17T18:30:52Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > we had a celebration at home, with burgers on the drill for everyone. Bet it’s fun for the dogs to try to eat those! Variable speed drill? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4941 "2023-06-17T19:45:25Z")
To the cooking surface poll I responded _Something else_ because there was no _It depends_. If there’s an oven underneath, it’s a stove. If it’s just the burners and the oven is somewhere else, or non existent, it’s a range. R-rated movies, I never attempted to sneak in because the rating system had not been started yet when I was of an age where I would have tried it. At age thirteen, I was refused entry into _Irma la Douce_. At age fourteen I was admitted to _The Pawnbroker_ with it’s quick bare-breasted scenes that were a major factor in the later abandonment of the Hays Code in favor of the rating system. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4942 "2023-06-17T20:02:18Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > I was after what you call the entire unit. I call the whole unit a stove (and voted accordingly.) If I’m talking specifically about the oven, then I’ll say the oven – or maybe the broiler if I’m broiling, though in my current and most of my previous stoves that’s been a matter of which element is on, not a matter of a different compartment. If I’m talking about cooking something on the burners on top, I’ll still say “stove”, though I might specify by saying “on the stove”. If I were somewhere where the cooking appliance was in separate pieces or there just wasn’t an oven but there was a stovetop, I’d call it a stovetop. Which, come to think of it, doesn’t make much sense if there isn’t any stovebottom; but that’s still what I’d call it. > [@DesertDog](#): > > R-rated movies, I never attempted to sneak in because the rating system had not been started yet when I was of an age where I would have tried it. Yup; that’s an option that wasn’t included: movie ratings started in 1968. In 1968, I was 17. So the issue never came up. (I had to look up when they started; but I looked it up because I couldn’t remember any discussion among my friends about it when we were, say, 14 or 15 or 16.) Before that they just had the Hays Code, which censored movies for everybody of any age. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4943 "2023-06-17T20:39:46Z")
I use “sofa” and “couch” equally often. My grandmother called it a “davenport”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=246) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=248)