# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4964 "2023-06-18T17:12:56Z")

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> [@Zyada](#):
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> My reply to the lawn mowing question depends on your climate - if you’re in Texas and it’s hitting 90 by 8 AM, it’s more acceptable to start early

That’s a good point. I wanted to start early today because rain is likely around 11:00 a.m. I started at 9 and was done by 10.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4965 "2023-06-18T17:22:55Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> If I understand correctly, in Wisconsin any place with more than 1000 people is legally considered a “city”.

Apparently only if they chose to be so incorporated; but you’re right about the size, at least for rural areas.

> **[Administrative divisions of Wisconsin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Wisconsin)**
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> The administrative divisions of Wisconsin include counties, cities, villages and towns. In Wisconsin, all of these are units of general-purpose local government. There are also a number of special-purpose districts formed to handle regional concerns, such as school districts.
> Whether a municipality is a city, village or town is not strictly dependent on the community's population or area, but on the form of government selected by the residents and approved by the Wisconsin State Legislature. Cit...

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> n order to incorporate as a city, a community must have at least 1,000 citizens if it is in a rural area or 5,000 if it is in an urban area

OK, I’ve been wrong before, I expect I’ll be wrong again: and I was wrong this time. Thanks for fighting ignorance!

– I’m still leaving my vote as is, under the presumption that what @RollOutTheBarrel meant was “municipality, whether village, town, township, borough, city, or whatever.” If they meant ‘only vote if you were living in a municipality incorporated as a city of that size’, please advise.

And on the lawnmower poll, I’m voting ‘ask your neighbors’. That should cover different community standards based on climate or whatever; as well as background traffic noise levels, etc. – of course, if one neighbor says ‘not before 10 AM’ and another says ‘I work night shift, not after 10AM when I go to bed!’, then you’ve got a problem.

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> And on the lawnmower poll, I’m voting ‘ask your neighbors’.

I put that a an option in the poll, but it’s really not for me. I don’t know the closest neighbors, as they’re up a cliff and down a street. They’re close as the crow flies, but I never see them and don’t know them. (and I’m a shy introvert)

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4967 "2023-06-18T17:31:34Z")

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If they’re up a cliff and down a street, unless that actually puts them really close to you and/or it’s an extraordinarily quiet neighborhood, I just wouldn’t worry about it. Your lawnmower probably doesn’t reach their place as anything more than ambient noise, anyway.

(Your drum set with the amps cranked up to 11 may be a different matter … . . )

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4968 "2023-06-18T17:33:44Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> If they’re up a cliff and down a street, unless that actually puts them really close to you and/or it’s an extraordinarily quiet neighborhood, I just wouldn’t worry about it.

It’s hard to explain, but basically they’re 75 feet from where I’m mowing (plus elevated), but probably 0.2 miles from me the way I’d have to walk there.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4969 "2023-06-18T17:38:15Z")

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Oh. 75 feet is pretty close; at least unless the elevation is several hundred feet.

Do you have their street address? You could write them a note.

Is there a community bulletin board of sorts, online or elsewhere? You could write a general post. ‘I live on X street (or in Y area) – what’s the community standard around here for how early is too early to run an electric lawnmower?’

Maybe none of that works and you’ll just have to guess. I wouldn’t expect anybody to find 9 shockingly early, around here.

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**Author:** ![RollOutTheBarrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rolloutthebarrel/32/1649_2.png) [@RollOutTheBarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RollOutTheBarrel)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4970 "2023-06-18T19:27:10Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I’m still leaving my vote as is, under the presumption that what @RollOutTheBarrel meant was “municipality, whether village, town, township, borough, city, or whatever.” If they meant ‘only vote if you were living in a municipality incorporated as a city of that size’, please advise.

Feel free to define “city” however seems right to you. 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4971 "2023-06-18T19:30:46Z")

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> [@Zyada](#):
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> My reply to the lawn mowing question depends on your climate - if you’re in Texas and it’s hitting 90 by 8 AM, it’s more acceptable to start early, than if you’re in Wisconsin and a high of 90 is rare

I had a similar answer, based on being the lawnmower (one of my chores) as a teen in southern New Mexico - even so, I went with not before 8 AM, because of the compromises one makes between the best options for self and everyone else. And because as a teen, who was I promise, staying up late on a Saturday night, there was no way I was getting up before 8am anyway…

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4972 "2023-06-18T19:36:47Z")

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Lawn mower noise usually doesn’t bother me that much. At least it’s more or less uniform, generally with minimal starts and stops, unlike the constant on/off and revving of other lawn equipment like leaf blowers, string trimmers, etc.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4973 "2023-06-18T20:17:34Z")

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The smallest city I ever lived in had about a 30,000 population when I lived there. But it was completely surrounded (literally) by the city of Los Angeles. The next smallest was at 50,000+ when I lived there. And now I’m actually in Los Angeles – though in one of those areas that’s referred to by another name most of the time because AFAIK it was separate entity back in the day.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4974 "2023-06-18T20:33:02Z")

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> [@RollOutTheBarrel](#):
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> Feel free to define “city” however seems right to you.

OK, will leave my vote as is.

Though I wouldn’t, ordinarily, refer to any of the small places I’ve lived as “cities”. The one large one – yes. That was Rochester, NY at over 600,000 residents at the time. That’s definitely a city! (as well as legally.)

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4975 "2023-06-18T20:55:08Z")

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The smallest place I’ve lived was a village in a Swiss municipality that currently has 1,158 residents. The actual village has far fewer than that. This is about the same as when I lived there. The largest place I’ve lived was the Tel Aviv-Jaffa metro area (1,591,000 at the time and 4,421,000 now) and though I’d like to find the population of Ramat Aviv, where I actually lived, I can only easily find the metro area stats.

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I’ll mow my lawn whenever I want to. Our neighbors are always up and doing yard work at sunrise. We only have two neighbors within earshot.

That said, I never mow until the dew is gone and the grass dry. This morning I had a chainsaw going at 8 am, but it’s a battery powered saw.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4977 "2023-06-18T21:43:13Z")

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I only stop for BBQ.

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I’ve done so many 20-30+ hour transits that 15 seems like a breeze.

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I would love that 500 stall bathroom!

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Unless your job was cleaning it.

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I only stop for BBQ.

Including other meat products, like jerky. Maybe a farm stand if it looks hyper-local. Strange preserves, ugly but intensely delicious produce, or an “ethnic” diner in a strange land.

And boiled peanuts.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/4982 "2023-06-18T22:37:12Z")

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How many people are using this enormous restroom? If there are 75 people using 500 stalls i think, “nice, plenty of room”. If it’s me and 2 other people, I’d find it creepy.

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My youngest would “design” houses. Many of his houses would feature similar bathrooms.

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