# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5444 "2023-07-09T14:40:57Z")

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I don’t think there could ever be a politician I would be jubilant over winning by any amount.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5445 "2023-07-09T15:14:05Z")

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Oh, I’ve been jubilant before, where I strongly supported a particular candidate because she was especially well-suited for the office and/or was a personal friend, or because her opponent was particularly bad or even IMHO dangerous. All the more so if the win came as a surprise.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5446 "2023-07-09T16:01:34Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I don’t think there could ever be a politician I would be jubilant over winning by any amount.

Well, for me it would be more about the other candidate _not_ winning.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5447 "2023-07-09T18:50:47Z")

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I don’t think either of them’s “dressy”.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5448 "2023-07-09T21:19:53Z")

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I only think shorts on a man are dressy when they’re on a Bahamian policeman.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5449 "2023-07-09T21:35:50Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I don’t think either of them’s “dressy”.

Neither do I. Maybe I should have worded it “closest to dressy”.

mmm

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5450 "2023-07-09T23:30:27Z")

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I was jubilant when Obama won.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5451 "2023-07-10T01:22:03Z")

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I was too, but things have changed since then.

I have no TV so didn’t vote in the poll but would likely watch a documentary or movie. Reality TV isn’t.

I’ve always been amazed at those holding conversations when they ran. I never could.

Nice, pressed jeans can actually look good if you are also wearing a nice pressed shirt. I’ve never been able to say that about shorts. They always look casual to me. Even if it the shorts are part of a uniform.

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**Author:** ![NinthAcolyte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ninthacolyte/32/13676_2.png) [@NinthAcolyte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinthAcolyte)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5452 "2023-07-10T13:39:10Z")

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Dang, y’all are really down on tattoos and piercings. Makes me want to go out and get more of both!

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5453 "2023-07-10T13:42:56Z")

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Go ahead. My “whatever” means “it’s up to whoever’s navel is or isn’t getting pierced”.

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5454 "2023-07-10T13:59:30Z")

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I was about to vote that no one’s allowed to have an opinion about someone else’s tattoos in addition to “whatever,” but then I realized that I _always_ have an opinion. I would say it’s rude to _express_ that opinion uninvited. Likewise, piercings squick me out and I prefer not to think about them, but that’s my own odd bodily integrity issue and it’s not the pierced person’s problem.

Many (perhaps most?) of my daughter’s friends have tattoos, and some of them are really gorgeous. I would no more criticize the ones that aren’t than I would tell a person that their nose is ugly.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5455 "2023-07-10T14:05:26Z")

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I like tattoos, and have wanted a couple of different ones over the years, but going to get one seems perpetually just over my effort horizon. Maybe someday.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5456 "2023-07-10T14:15:24Z")

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I have a bunch of ink and piercings. They are there because I like them. They are for me.

I hear all kinds of negative comments from people who do not have body mods, but I’ve never heard anyone with tattoos/piercings criticizing people who do not have any.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5457 "2023-07-10T14:15:43Z")

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You’re allowed to have an opinion about somebody else’s tattoos if the tattoed person asks you for your opinion; and arguably if they’re your intimate long-term partner and you have to look at them all the time. In either case their opinion overrides yours, but you can have one.

[ETA: I don’t think it’s legal to get permanent tattoos for small children, so was leaving them out of it. If it is/were legal, then their guardians could also have an opinion, probably mostly along the lines of ‘wait till you’re older’.)

I find some tattoos beautiful, some ugly, and some just there; which didn’t seem to be a possible vote. I have no interest either in getting one myself, or in telling somebody else that they should or shouldn’t get one (or more).

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5458 "2023-07-10T14:23:29Z")

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If an otherwise attractive woman wanted to have sex with me, I would not let a little ink or jewelry stand in the way.

But, all else equal, I think most people look better un-mutilated.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5459 "2023-07-10T14:24:24Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> ETA: I don’t think it’s legal to get permanent tattoos for small children

Not legal, however stick&pokes (tattoos done by hand with a needle and ink) are creating a problem. Your ten year old gets a stick&poke done by a ten year old friend. Illegal? Who do you fine/imprison?

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5460 "2023-07-10T14:49:18Z")

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I used to really dislike tattoos. To me they had the esthetic of someone covered in bruises. After a long time I’ve come to appreciate them as creative and usually attractive. Sometimes beautiful.

Since I’ve retired and don’t really need to give a shit any longer, I’ve considered a tattoo for myself, but inspiration hasn’t struck on what to pick and where to put it.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5461 "2023-07-10T15:04:02Z")

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Or “least undressy”.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5462 "2023-07-10T15:09:56Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> But, all else equal, I think most people look better un-mutilated.

I like a lot of tattoos. Not all, of course. Neither my wife or I have any, but most of our kids do.

Piercings do nothing for me, but unless it’s on the tongue or lip, I’m in the “whatever” camp. Or the Prince Albert, which I don’t ever have to see at least, but the very idea of it is repulsive (to me). I also don’t like the ear gauging which use to be popular (and my son-in-law still has).

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5463 "2023-07-10T15:58:49Z")

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It’s OK to have an opinion regarding what I do and do not find attractive in another person. As **InternetLegend** pointed out, it’s not OK to offer that opinion unsolicited, and of course I know that my opinion rightfully means nothing to anybody else.

I have one tattoo on my left calf. My wife has three, on her wrist, foot, and shoulder. They are all small and tasteful and I like them. I tend not to like seeing someone completely covered in tattoos, and neck and face tattoos quite frankly make me seriously question a person’s judgement and intelligence. I’m pretty ‘meh’ on most piercings, but ear gauges squick me out.

But “to each their own” is sill the correct answer.

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