# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 283
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5644 "2023-07-18T22:28:57Z")
I couldn’t answer the nuke question. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5645 "2023-07-18T22:36:43Z")
I’m not answering it; because, given a month’s notice, I’d damn well have done something else in the meantime. Besides which, what remotely sensible adversary, or even what entirely insane one, would give a month’s notice? Nearly every country on the planet would be trying their best to do something else in the meantime. If we had been hit unexpectedly with a massive pre-emptive strike, no, the survivors shouldn’t set their missles off. Whether they would or not is another question, as they’d hardly be in a rational state of mind at the time; so I don’t see how any attacker could count on it. (Didn’t we already identify that story quite some time back on the identify-a-science-fiction-story thread? I’ve forgotten the title and author again already; but I sure remember the story.) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5646 "2023-07-18T23:20:29Z")
> [@Allecher](#): > > My kids believed in Santa for a while. There is actually a common idea in atheist circles that teaching your kids about Santa is the first step in teaching them not to blindly believe authority figures. We had “relatives’ gifts” we opened on Christmas Eve and “Santa’s gifts” – the bicycle or pony (not based on a real incident) we’d find on Christmas morning. I am a firm agnostic and voted Libertarian until the greater of two evils became _wa-a-ay_ greater, so there’s a data point. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5647 "2023-07-18T23:55:02Z")
Right now we do Something you want Something you need Something you wear Something you read We wanted to get away from consumerism on Christmas so that’s all he gets from us. Of course he gets a ton of stuff from his grandparents so I don’t know what difference it makes. But we open our gifts slowly over the course of the day or days. This year we withheld some gifts until New Year’s and his birthday (March.) Santa is not a factor. He’s either disinterested in or doesn’t understand stories so I’m not sure how I would communicate it even if I wanted to. He does like the original _Grinch_ cartoon. I haven’t felt the need to insert Santa into our family thing. I want him to know the things he has come from us and his other loved ones. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5648 "2023-07-19T00:19:03Z")
The nuke thread needs a “Strike first” option. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5649 "2023-07-19T00:23:21Z")
I’m 65. I’m a strong atheist who believes in Santa. Makes total sense, and works for me and my family. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5650 "2023-07-19T00:41:47Z")
Regarding the Nuke thread. Given only the two options, I went with Nuke 'em. Honestly though, I’d have tried everything else under the sun first, from an assassination, to pointing out to all and sundry that this blackmail applies to every other nation as well, and launching a coalition conventional attack. I will also inform my enemy that they’re wrong, and we will be counter-launching, despite what their experts are telling them. But when it comes down to it, if they’re launching, the world is already doomed. Either everyone else capitulates to a nuclear tyrant, or one of them will also say “Whelp, we’re all fucked anyway, so let’s give them the finger in return.” Again, the worlds climate is going to be worsened no matter what per the OP. That means world-wide famines, which is going to cause countless deaths anyway. Which is why I suspect that the other nations would aid my (non-nuclear option). But this is the trolley problem writ large, the only way to win is not to play. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5651 "2023-07-19T03:35:45Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > One of our local breweries has Goat Yoga classes every Sunday morning. Do they brew it with the goats instead of [that terrible](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/larry-kudlow-plant-based-beer-joe-biden_n_6084b41ae4b0ccb91c24f815) plant-based beer? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5652 "2023-07-19T03:50:34Z")
Re WildaBeast’s poll: I’ve never watched any of those shows. In fact, I’ve never even heard of two of them. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5653 "2023-07-19T04:57:52Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Something you want > Something you need > Something you wear > Something you read That’s lovely! Maybe I’ll start doing that with the other grownups with whom I exchange gifts. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5654 "2023-07-19T11:17:13Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Something you want > Something you need > Something you wear > Something you read So … a T-shirt ! ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5655 "2023-07-19T11:24:08Z")
> [@pjd](#): > > So … a T-shirt ! A T-shirt with those four sentences on it! (Plus some Christmasy iconography) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5656 "2023-07-19T13:58:14Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I’m 65. I’m a strong atheist who believes in Santa. Makes total sense, and works for me and my family. I’m also an atheist but I feel like a strong Christian case could also be made against Santa. > [@susan](#): > > That’s lovely! Maybe I’ll start doing that with the other grownups with whom I exchange gifts. It’s good for me too. It forces me to have a little self-control around gift giving. I tend to get a little carried away! ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5657 "2023-07-19T14:07:39Z")
I don’t know yet about the glass shelves. Ask me again if they’re still intact in ten years. I do seem a little less likely to lose stuff in there; I can see through them better. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5658 "2023-07-19T14:34:07Z")
I like the glass shelves because if something leaks, it doesn’t go dribbling onto everything below it. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5659 "2023-07-19T16:57:32Z")
Also, every once in a while you run across a fridge item that wobbles between the wires on a wired rack. mmm ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5660 "2023-07-19T20:17:58Z")
I hate wire shelves anywhere…not just the refrigerator. We’ve had glass shelves for forever, and we’ve never broken one. They’re also easier to clean. I hate cleaning wire anything. I’m an old. My first Doctor Who was Jon Pertwee, so I hold a certain fondness for him. My top fav is Tom Baker, though. Just saw Greg Wise kill him in _Towards Zero_ last night. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5661 "2023-07-19T20:18:12Z")
Can we please avoid polls with only a bunch of names that we may or may not use to be able to figure out what is being polled. I really don’t know what to do with a list that looks like: Jones, Finkle, Ruben, Davidson, and Albany. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5662 "2023-07-19T20:24:29Z")
Whittaker was a good Doctor, unfortunately Chibnall was not a good showrunner. I also had a problem with Moffet as a showrunner. He writes great stories, but his series tend to get muddled. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5663 "2023-07-19T20:25:28Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Jones, Finkle, Ruben, Davidson, and Albany. “What is a law firm that has never been in my kitchen?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=282) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=284)