# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 288
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5744 "2023-07-24T19:36:18Z")
Color me surprised. Not. But who pronounces “vase” to rhyme with “Mars”? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5745 "2023-07-24T19:46:18Z")
> [@InternetLegend](#): > > My only real issue with nudity in movies is that I can’t help noticing that far more directors feel it’s necessary (for the story, no doubt) that attractive young women be nude than any other characters. I agree that happens. But does that mean we should have more nude men and older people? Okay with me, but I’m guessing there’s less pushback when they stick with “attractive young women.” ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5746 "2023-07-24T19:54:38Z")
Yup. If the nudity is there because it isn’t realistic for people to be portrayed as dressed all the time, then men and older women should be included. I just get tired of being constantly reminded that men are the primary audience producers want to attract. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5747 "2023-07-24T19:56:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > But who pronounces “vase” to rhyme with “Mars”? British, Australians, some Canadians and a few Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5748 "2023-07-24T19:58:23Z")
Really? Never heard of that. Is it considered posh? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5749 "2023-07-24T20:02:16Z")
Standard pronunciation, I think. ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5750 "2023-07-24T20:09:42Z")
Interesting point about the “root” pronunciation: I do indeed pronounce “root” and “route” the same way. However, I have relatives who pronounce “root” with the same vowel sound as “foot.” ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5751 "2023-07-24T20:36:00Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > But who pronounces “vase” to rhyme with “Mars”? > > British, Australians, some Canadians and a few Americans. This would never occur to me, and I’m struggling to imagine it. For one thing, I can’t imagine pronouncing “vase” with an R in it, so I’m assuming you’re thinking of “Mars” in an R-less accent? But if you leave the R out of “Mars,” wouldn’t it rhyme with “schnozz”? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5752 "2023-07-24T20:38:00Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Really? Never heard of that. Is it considered posh? Received Pronunciation (British standard English) is non-rhotic: “Mars” sounds nearly identical to “moss” except that the final consonant is voiced in the former, sibillant in the latter. I am not clear on whether the “r” contributes to the voicing. (Also, if you have a US midwest accent, the vowel in “Mars” is not the same as the vowel in “moss”.) ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5753 "2023-07-24T20:51:48Z")
While I pronounce aunt like ant, I have a couple of aints ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5754 "2023-07-24T20:52:12Z")
Hear for yourself: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/y7AqzM4OmUo/hqdefault.jpg "How do you pronounce Vase? - Merriam-Webster - Ask the Editor") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7AqzM4OmUo) ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5755 "2023-07-24T20:53:36Z")
Yeah, I sure don’t hear an R (nor is there one in any of those phonetic spellings). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5756 "2023-07-24T20:59:09Z")
Yeah, i don’t think any of those rhyme with mars. I would have spelled it vahz, perhaps, to distinguish it from the versions that rhyme with face and maze. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5757 "2023-07-24T21:04:49Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Received Pronunciation (British standard English) is non-rhotic: “Mars” sounds nearly identical to “moss” except that the final consonant is voiced in the former, sibillant in the latter. Not in standard British English. > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > For one thing, I can’t imagine pronouncing “vase” with an R in it, so I’m assuming you’re thinking of “Mars” in an R-less accent? In standard British English, vase and Mars rhyme: [Youtube](https://youtu.be/0frv9EyCQ9s/) > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > But if you leave the R out of “Mars,” wouldn’t it rhyme with “schnozz”? “Schnozz” is North American and not used in British English. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5758 "2023-07-24T21:05:44Z")
According to Reddit, there are people in the UK who put an R in, “Varz”. [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/srpsqk/fellow\_brittons\_is\_it\_pronounced\_vays\_or\_varz\_for/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/srpsqk/fellow_brittons_is_it_pronounced_vays_or_varz_for/) ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5759 "2023-07-24T21:07:19Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > “Schnozz” is North American and not used in British English. Are you saying that you don’t know how “schnozz” is pronounced, or what it would mean for “vase” to rhyme with it? Or if not, what’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5760 "2023-07-24T21:13:23Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Are you saying that you don’t know how “schnozz” is pronounced Nasally? ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5761 "2023-07-24T21:14:18Z")
Vase rhymes with Mars, which is pronounced the same as Ma’s. The R is not really pronounced, probably due to laziness (it’s easier to say “Ma’s” than “Ma **r** s”) - that’s how a lot of British words occur. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5762 "2023-07-24T21:20:18Z")
Schnozz is likely from Yiddish. The pronunciations of the word [on Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9AiBigpxeg&ab_channel=PronunciationGuide) and [on Wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/schnozz) are different from each other. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5763 "2023-07-24T21:33:39Z")
The “vase”, “aunt”, and “route” polls needed a “both” option. > [@InternetLegend](#): > > I do indeed pronounce “root” and “route” the same way. However, I have relatives who pronounce “root” with the same vowel sound as “foot.” For me, _route_ can rhyme with “scoot” (when mantioning a highway, such as Route 66) or with “scout” (when discussing people’s movement paths, such as a paper route). _Root_ fhymes with “foot” and “put”. _Vase_ usually rhymes with “face”, though if it’s a particularly fancy one I may call it a “vahz” (rhyming with _Oz_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=287) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=289)