# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
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> [@pjd](#):
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> The R is not really pronounced, probably due to laziness (it’s easier  
> to say “Ma’s” than “Ma **r** s”) - that’s how a lot of British words occur.

I was watching an episode of _Shakespeare and Hathaway_ last Saturday, and I thought a character’s name was “Stekla,” until I saw it written out. It was “Steckler.”

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I was watching an episode of _Shakespeare and Hathaway_ last Saturday, and I thought a character’s name was “Stekla,” until I saw it written out. It was “Steckler.”

Conversely, when I first started watching _Doctor Who_ in the 1980s, I initially assumed that there was a non-rhotic “r” in the name of the evil robotic aliens – that they were “Darleks.” It was only when I saw the species name written out that I realized they were “Daleks.”

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5766 "2023-07-24T21:54:12Z")

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This conversation reminds me of a guy I worked with who was from England. I was going on a trip there, and asked him what chocolate I should get. He answered “cadby”

After back and forthing a minute, he finally, with visible effort, said Cadbury, with the “R” vocalized. After that I could hear the r in his original pronunciation, but it was like 1/10 of an R.

On forvo, of the 4 British versions, only one sounds like it has the swallowed R.

> **[How to pronounce vase in English - Definition of vase in English](https://forvo.com/word/vase/#en_uk)**
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> How to pronounce vase in English. The definition of vase is: an open jar of glass or porcelain used as an ornament or to hold...

Are those of you saying that vase rhymes with Mars British? Because ISTM that would be saying that pink rhymes with hank. In my accent they do, but if I were asked, I would say no

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5767 "2023-07-24T23:58:08Z")

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I’m surprised by the high number of voters for the “root”. I had never heard route pronounced as anything but the “out” rhyming sound.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5768 "2023-07-25T00:01:26Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I’m surprised by the high number of voters for the “root”. I had never heard route pronounced as anything but the “out” rhyming soun

I hear both so often that it doesn’t register to me as a thing one way or the other. I tend to say root. But I but it’s not 100%

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5769 "2023-07-25T00:08:05Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I hear both so often that it doesn’t register to me as a thing one way or the other.

Me too. And, while it’s not a hard-and-fast rule, what @SCAdian said matches my general experience:

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> _route_ can rhyme with “scoot” (when mantioning a highway, such as Route 66) or with “scout” (when discussing people’s movement paths, such as a paper route).

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5770 "2023-07-25T01:42:36Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > Are you saying that you don’t know how “schnozz” is pronounced
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> Nasally?

I snorted.

mmm

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5771 "2023-07-25T02:07:37Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I’m surprised by the high number of voters for the “root”. I had never heard route pronounced as anything but the “out” rhyming sound.

I usually say ‘root’ especially when talking about a highway but that box in my house that distributes the internet is a ‘rauter’ – ‘rooter’ sounds like something that cleans out sewer pipes.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5772 "2023-07-25T02:34:19Z")

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Who is allowing teenage boys to eat? Or more to the point, disallowing some other number of calories?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5773 "2023-07-25T02:57:54Z")

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In JFK’s Boston Brahmin accent, Cuba comes out as “Cuber”, with a hard R. I would expect this is something like that.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5774 "2023-07-25T12:47:42Z")

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Grateful Dead: Don’t know a single song by them. Or if I do know one, I didn’t know who was singing.

> [@DesertDog](#):
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> > [@Velocity](#):
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> > I’m surprised by the high number of voters for the “root”. I had never heard route pronounced as anything but the “out” rhyming sound.
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> I usually say ‘root’ especially when talking about a highway but that box in my house that distributes the internet is a ‘rauter’ – ‘rooter’ sounds like something that cleans out sewer pipes.

You people who say _route_ rhymes with _root_: does it also rhyme with _boot_?

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My college roommate was a self identifying Deadhead. They have some okay stuff, but the rest of the whole Dead culture thing I really don’t get it.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5776 "2023-07-25T13:24:06Z")

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The best thing to come out of the Grateful Dead is that Carlos Santana heard them and said to himself “If they can do it, I can” and started Santana

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5777 "2023-07-25T13:44:05Z")

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I really like the Dead but I never followed the culture. Only made it to one concert.

Most of the teenage boys I’ve known got a good bit more than 60 minutes per day of activity. I may not have known a representative selection – many of them were farm kids or farm interns.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5778 "2023-07-25T13:55:16Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> You people who say _route_ rhymes with _root_: does it also rhyme with _boot_?

It is like the hateful eight became rude nine.

I recently read that there was a study, presumably using cadavers, where they looked for differences between males snd females and discovered that the female small intestine tends to be about 20% longer. Hence, women often eat less than men because they metabolize more. The greater length probably has to do with feeding a fetus.

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Come to think of it how I pronounce “route” largely depends on whether it’s a noun or a verb.

“Root” 66.

“Route (rhymes with out)” the traffic through there.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/5780 "2023-07-25T14:21:27Z")

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Most of my psychedelic parking lot experiences were at Jimmy Buffett concerts.

Granted, a lot of Dead material is noodling and self-indulgent claptrap, but when they were on and tight - nobody better.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/trJcxc55YvM/maxresdefault.jpg "Me & My Uncle (Live at The Fillmore East, New York, NY, April 29, 1971) (2021 Remaster)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trJcxc55YvM)

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Most of the teenage boys I’ve known got a good bit more than 60 minutes per day of activity

I have no idea how much activity the teenage boys of my acquaintance got. But i know that most of them had “hollow leg syndrome” and were slim.

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My 5’10" sixteen year old is an inhuman eating machine, yet only weighs 130 lbs.

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I was watching an episode of _Shakespeare and Hathaway_ last Saturday, and I thought a character’s name was “Stekla,” until I saw it written out. It was “Steckler.”

As an aside, one of the funniest moments I’ve seen on tv was the episode of _Shakespeare and Hathaway_ where their beloved and devoted assistant of several seasons, Sebastian, appeared to be leaving the show (but ended up not leaving) where Frank (or maybe it was Lu) says, “Well, goodbye Sebastian…_whatever your surname is._”

It never dawned on me until then that they’d never used or even mentioned him having any surname on the show!

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