# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> I voted “TV remote”; but I took the liberty of assuming I’d still be able to somehow do everything I’d need to do with my TV even without the remote.

I, too, assumed there would be some way to control the TV. Just like i assumed you could still open a garage door without the remote.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/562 "2022-11-28T02:16:41Z")

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Roast beef and ham (the pastrami and corned beef are in the freezer), provolone, no dressing, and dill pickles. In fact, I’m going to go make it as soon as I finish this post. 🙂

Went to pick up groceries late in the afternoon – didn’t even occur to me that it was Black Friday.

Can I really give up the automatic garage door opener or the GPS if I’ve never had one? I picked the TV remote. Twice.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
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> [@Loach](#):
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> Fake crying would be because they are distressed too.

My younger one would guilt me with fake crying when I left him at day care. “Mommy, no, they’re mean monsters!” Then he’d go and play happily.

As for the Judge Judy poll, I put “never”, but “Judge who?” isn’t really accurate. More than once I’ve been in a room where the show was playing loudly and I had no control over the TV, so I do know who she is.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
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> [@gkster](#):
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> As for the Judge Judy poll, I put “never”, but “Judge who?” isn’t really accurate. … I do know who she is.

Ditto. And I understood the reference when she was parodied on Saturday Night Live, or when Homer Simpson said “Who made you Judge Judy and executioner?”

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/565 "2022-11-28T14:55:48Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > I voted “TV remote”; but I took the liberty of assuming I’d still be able to somehow do everything I’d need to do with my TV even without the remote.
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> I, too, assumed there would be some way to control the TV. Just like i assumed you could still open a garage door without the remote.

Unfortunately, the only way I know how to open the garage without an opener is to get out of the car, unlock, and roll up the door, which _sucks_ in the rain.

Maus, who grew up without a garage door opener.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/566 "2022-11-28T15:52:27Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> If I could easily find maps losing GPS wouldn’t be that tough.

Of the items listed, GPS is the one with the most impact. It would affect more than your ability to find your way to someplace in your car. The world would be less safe (911, air traffic control, fire and flood rescue, etc.) and more expensive (marine transportation, shipping logistics, inventory management, fleet management of trucking). Also, large LEO constellations become more expensive (inexpensive GPS units replaced by expensive star trackers and IMUs, plus ground-based tracking, navigation and control of individual satellites becomes much harder), so maybe all these new constellations offering ubiquitous internet and phone become economically infeasible?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/567 "2022-11-28T15:54:12Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Unfortunately, the only way I know how to open the garage without an opener is to get out of the car, unlock, and roll up the door, which _sucks_ in the rain.
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> Maus, who grew up without a garage door opener.

The other way is to just leave the garage door open, except in extreme weather.

In fact, I have a friend who built his own house, who didn’t include a door on his garage for this reason.

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Unfortunately, the only way I know how to open the garage without an opener is to get out of the car, unlock, and roll up the door, which _sucks_ in the rain.

Sucks even harder in snow deeper than the shoes I’m wearing. Our microwave gets used for melting butter. I’d give it up in a heartbeat.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
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Yes, my microwave is a $500 coffee warmer.

mmm

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/570 "2022-11-28T17:11:46Z")

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> [@gkster](#):
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> My younger one would guilt me with fake crying when I left him at day care. “Mommy, no, they’re mean monsters!” Then he’d go and play happily.

Exactly. There’s a big difference between a kid who’s doing that, and one who’s genuinely afraid to be left at daycare – whether because they’re just not used to it yet, or because there really are mean monstrous people there (and those latter two are also two different situations; but the distress of the child in the first one is genuine because the child doesn’t know yet which situation it is.)

> [@gkster](#):
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> As for the Judge Judy poll, I put “never”, but “Judge who?” isn’t really accurate. More than once I’ve been in a room where the show was playing loudly and I had no control over the TV, so I do know who she is.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen her on the TV, not sure; but I know who she is because I’ve read a batch of references to her. I did also vote ‘never’, however.

> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> the only way I know how to open the garage without an opener is to get out of the car, unlock, and roll up the door, which _sucks_ in the rain.

Where I live, and the way my garage is, I just leave the garage open. (This particular garage isn’t harmed by a bit of rain getting in the door. If there’s a major snowstorm coming, I want it shut – but I’m also very unlikely to be going anywhere.)

I’m well aware that this technique wouldn’t be a good idea for a lot of people.

> [@peccavi](#):
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> Of the items listed, GPS is the one with the most impact. It would affect more than your ability to find your way to someplace in your car. The world would be less safe (911, air traffic control, fire and flood rescue, etc.) and more expensive (marine transportation, shipping logistics, inventory management, fleet management of trucking).

I took the poll as meaning ‘what you as an individual are willing to go without’; not as meaning ‘what technology are you willing to have disappear from the world altogether’. That would indeed have made a difference to my answer about GPS in particular; but in any case I didn’t vote, as my answer was pretty much ‘any or all the above’. I do use a microwave; but while it’s handy (almost entirely to warm things up), I could readily manage without it.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/571 "2022-11-28T19:59:41Z")

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On very cold, snowy winter days around here, a garage-door opener is worth its weight in gold. No way I’m giving _that_ up.

> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> I keep a road atlas in the car for long trips. They don’t need recharing.

Do you employ a charwoman?

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I have a fifteen year-old boy who loves maps nearly as much as I do. I also have a CB, in case there is traffic. The truckers usually know the best routes.

Of course, that’s in the past. Garmin is my navigator now.

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If you leave your garage door open on a house with an attached garage, you’ve just left a thief a handy, semi-secretive way to break into your house. If I had a detached garage with nothing valuable in it, I might consider leaving it open. But, then, there are lots of critters around, and raccoons can do a number on a structure.

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I live in snow land, and grew up without a garage door opener and lived in several places without them until my 30s. I’m not giving this feature up, no way no how.

As mentioned previously, no TV, so I’ll give up the remote.

As for Judge Judy, though I know who she is, and access to my computer means I _could_ watch her show but no way, no how would I choose to do so. I voted Who’s Judge Judy? because my life would not be the lesser if she went off the air.

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> [@carrps](#):
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> If you leave your garage door open on a house with an attached garage, you’ve just left a thief a handy, semi-secretive way to break into your house. If I had a detached garage with nothing valuable in it, I might consider leaving it open. But, then, there are lots of critters around, and raccoons can do a number on a structure.

Eh, my back door is even more secretive, and probably easier to break into. I do have some issues with critters in the garage, especially if there is stuff in the garbage pail. But I don’t think leaving the door open significantly increases the risk of my house being broken into by humans.

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> [@carnut](#):
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> As for Judge Judy, though I know who she is, and access to my computer means I _could_ watch her show but no way, no how would I choose to do so. I voted Who’s Judge Judy? because my life would not be the lesser if she went off the air.

Ditto. I have probably even seen clips from her show, although I’ve never watched a whole show, or had it on my TV. I certainly know who she is. But “who’s judge judy” seemed like the least inaccurate choice.

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I don’t think I’ve ever watched a full episode of JJ, but I’ve seen enough of it that “never” would be an inaccurate response.

The question I would ask is not “Who is Judge Judy?” but “_Why_ is Judge Judy?”

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I answered “rarely” to the Judge Judy question. While I’ve never sat down and watched an episode on purpose, I have seen parts of episodes here and there when it’s been on TV in the background, or it was on after something I was watching and I was too lazy to change the channel right away.

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Well, you’ve watched more of it than I have, then. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it on TV, as a show. It’s probably a cable thing that we never got, if I had to guess.

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It was syndicated, so it aired on broadcast TV; it just depends on if one of your local stations decided to air it. Checking my local listings, it looks like both my local CW and CBS affiliates air reruns.

I think most of the times I saw it was way back when I was a poor student and didn’t _have_ cable, and also was frequently at home during the day. So I might watch, say, Family Feud or something on one of the local broadcast channels, and then Judge Judy might come on after that.

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