# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 315
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6284 "2023-08-20T20:32:59Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > 8 years of DeSantis is worse than 4 more years of Trump This weighed heavily in my selection of Trump. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6285 "2023-08-20T21:22:42Z")
Ugh, what a terrible choice! But DeSantis, for all his many flaws, does not pose the existential threat to American democracy that I believe a vengeful second Trump term would. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6286 "2023-08-20T21:51:29Z")
I couldn’t vote in the De Santis/Trump poll. I just couldn’t make myself make the choice. My electric bill is paid every other month, and the kwh were 618. I’d prefer a poll where we’d calculate a monthly usage (if you don’t pay monthly) and _not_ a pie chart result. DAMN!!! First, we’re hit by a tropical storm for the first time in over 80 years, and now we get a 5.5 earthquake??? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6287 "2023-08-20T22:54:42Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I couldn’t vote in the De Santis/Trump poll. I just couldn’t make myself make the choice. Ditto. > [@carrps](#): > > DAMN!!! First, we’re hit by a tropical storm for the first time in over 80 years, and now we get a 5.5 earthquake??? – goes to look at the news – ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6288 "2023-08-20T23:31:17Z")
Pie charts are terrible for more than 5ish options. Especially ones like here that don’t note the % of each option. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6289 "2023-08-21T01:39:42Z")
Both Disney-antis and Trump are terrible, but I’d rather have the former; at least he’s young and has no risk of dementia and is somewhat more educated/smarter than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6290 "2023-08-21T03:14:32Z")
But Trump being old is good. He’s at much higher odds of dying before completing his second term than Desantis. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6291 "2023-08-21T04:22:52Z")
Well, if Trump goes forward with the rumored plans of appointing Marjorie Taylor-Greene as his VP, you wouldn’t want him to die. I doubt DeSantis would be foolish enough to select MTG. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6292 "2023-08-21T13:57:03Z")
I voted trump because i think he’s less competent, and would do less harm. But I’d he selects MTG as his running mate, i might change my vote. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6293 "2023-08-21T13:59:18Z")
On the hiring at McDonald’s pool, i wasn’t sure what the difference is between “hire for other reasons” and “hire because he’s qualified”. None of those degrees seems relevant to me for the hiring decision, and I’d want to look at him based on whatever i look at for other hiring decisions. (So i picked “other”, but could be convinced i voted wrong.) ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6294 "2023-08-21T14:24:22Z")
Is the person otherwise qualified – that is, do they seem reasonably likely to show up, to do the job, to interact politely with customers (if applicable to the job) and with other workers, to stay in the position long enough to make it worth their training time? Are there multiple applicants for this one position? If so, does there seem to be any reason applicable to the particular job to favor this person over the others, or one of the others over them? I’m not going to either hire them or not hire them because of the degrees, if that’s the question. But I might either hire them or not hire them for other reasons. There doesn’t seem to be any way in the poll to say that, so I didn’t vote. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6295 "2023-08-21T14:35:52Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > You used 10 times the electricity than I did last month, and I work from home. It’s crazy. We have a lot of things that use electricity, but I’m wondering if something is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6296 "2023-08-21T17:32:34Z")
Do you have a pool? That wouldn’t quite do it, but it would go a good ways. But yes: 8000 kWh is an insane amount. 32x what I use. I hear some utility companies will do a power analysis if you request it. I’m in PG&E territory – they used to a few decades ago, but no longer. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6297 "2023-08-21T17:36:45Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > But yes: 8000 kWh is an insane amount. 32x what I use. That’s in the winter, and I think it’s the radiant floors. I am thinking I’ll be daling back on those this year. We do have a hot tub, and five refrigerators (three of which are small under the counter types). We also have two water heaters, but both are pretty new and supposedly efficient. Two EVs, but we don’t drive that much. And space heaters running in the greenhouse. 8,000 is the max, typically its 3,000 to 4,000 per month. > [@squeegee](#): > > I hear some utility companies will do a power analysis if you request it. I’m going to do this.(if available) ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6298 "2023-08-21T17:43:46Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I think it’s the radiant floors. I am thinking I’ll be daling back on those this year Or put them on timers or something. No need for a hot bath floor if you’re sleeping or watching TV. For yucks I just went and found my December electric bill, when I’d be running the furnace which uses a bit more electric. I used 356 kWh that month. I have one fridge, gas water heater and furnace and dryer. I live alone and I’m retired so I’m always home. Maybe _I’m_ the outlier. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6299 "2023-08-21T18:14:55Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > We have a lot of things that use electricity, but I’m wondering if something is wrong. You might have a leak to ground somewhere. I’d get it checked. > **[Dealing With Leaking Stray Voltage](https://www.thisoldhouse.com/electrical/21019373/dealing-with-leaking-stray-voltage)** > > Avoid danger and sky-high electric bills by contacting a pro ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6300 "2023-08-21T18:29:40Z")
> James Thurber - [My Life and Hard Times](https://www.gutenberg.ca/ebooks/thurberj-mylifeandhardtimes/thurberj-mylifeandhardtimes-00-e.html) > > She [Thurber’s mother] came naturally by her confused and groundless fears, for her own mother lived the latter years of her life in the horrible suspicion that electricity was dripping invisibly all over the house. It leaked, she contended, out of empty sockets if the wall switch had been left on. She would go around screwing in bulbs, and if they lighted up she would hastily and fearfully turn off the wall switch and go back to her Pearson’s or Everybody’s, happy in the satisfaction that she had stopped not only a costly but a dangerous leakage. Nothing could ever clear this up for her. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6301 "2023-08-21T18:32:40Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > You might have a leak to ground somewhere. I’d get it checked. Is that something the power company would discover in an energy audit? I would think so. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6302 "2023-08-21T18:43:16Z")
I would think so too, but am not sure. You could ask them. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6303 "2023-08-22T00:20:43Z")
The pendulum always swings. You won’t always like the president. That’s why I strongly believe the single most important thing a president can do is ensure the peaceful transition of power. If DeSantis is a one term president I don’t think he will try to unlawfully stay in power. Trump is the only one who has tried to break the country in that way. Almost anyone else would be a better choice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=314) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=316)