# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6324 "2023-08-23T16:15:14Z")

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I couldn’t hold my nose long enough to pick any of them. I know I’m fighting the hypothetical, but I just can’t do it.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6325 "2023-08-23T16:37:08Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> My husband’s mother once called us in distress because she believed she’d locked herself _in_ the car.

Teslas unlatch the door electronically; to get out of the car you open the door by pressing a button or something like that. There is also a hidden manual emergency release so you don’t get locked in if the battery dies, but apparently some Tesla owners didn’t read the manual and don’t know about the emergency release:

> **[Arizona man was trapped in his Tesla on a 100 degree day; here's how to get out](https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2023/08/02/man-trapped-inside-tesla-manual-door-operation/70512739007/)**
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> An Arizona man said his Tesla battery died, locking him inside the vehicle with no way out on a 100-degree day. Here's how Tesla's manual door works.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6326 "2023-08-23T18:48:28Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I voted trump because i think he’s less competent, and would do less harm.

I do believe his hefty helping of stupid, along with his Narcissistic Preening Dementia saved the country from some serious being-fucked-up. Nonetheless, I was still unable to vote in that poll. I tried, several times, but it refused to happen.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6327 "2023-08-23T20:48:12Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> There is also a hidden manual emergency release so you don’t get locked in if the battery dies

What on earth is the sense of hiding an emergency release?

Emergency releases ought to be bright red and extremely obvious!

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6328 "2023-08-23T20:52:27Z")

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I’m not a fan of beards but I cannot deny Riker owned that beard.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6329 "2023-08-23T20:52:29Z")

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Out of all of the Republican candidates I think Christie is the clear choice. And I’m speaking as a retired NJ public employee which means he’s already fucked me out of tens of thousands of dollars. He isn’t hard right wing. He’s usually wrong within acceptable limits. He has shown he can work with democrats on important issues. He won’t do crazy insurrection shit.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6330 "2023-08-23T20:53:39Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I’m not a fan of beards but I cannot deny Riker owned that beard.

My finger was heading towards that button but I realized you can’t beat Sisko’s Hawk goatee.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6331 "2023-08-23T20:59:24Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> What on earth is the sense of hiding an emergency release?

For style, of course. Tesla wants their cars to look minimalist and futuristic with everything operated by touch screens. Having a big, clunky, manual door release out in the open would totally ruin the aesthetic.

Also I think Tesla doesn’t want people mistaking it for the normal door release. They claim that if you use the manual release too often it can damage the mechanism, so it should only be used if the electronic door release isn’t working.

ETA: [Here’s Doug DeMuro demonstrating how to open the doors in a Tesla Model Y](https://youtu.be/xAXDcTH6hPw?si=i_kXIfy-2VBUF_O9&t=1419). The manual release isn’t _that_ hard to find, but you do kind do have to know it’s there. Especially if you’re accustomed to always opening the door with the door with the button, it might not be obvious that there another way to open them.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6332 "2023-08-23T21:01:24Z")

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I think you are probably right about Christie, but I voted for Pence. Mostly because he reminds me in some ways of Gerald Ford, who managed a tough job by basically doing nothing in a time when nothing was just what we needed.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6333 "2023-08-23T21:06:20Z")

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Pence has proven that he will follow the constitution even when the barbarians are literally at the gate called for his death. That counts for something. Being a religious wacko also counts for something, something bad. Christie was my Governor for 8 years and I don’t even know if he went to church.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6334 "2023-08-23T21:17:01Z")

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We got my son a phone when he entered middle school in 6th grade. He was 11 at the time. That year he started walking/biking to school by himself.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6335 "2023-08-23T21:26:31Z")

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I lived in Jersey at the time he governed and I always had a grudging respect for him, especially when he took racist reactionaries to task for their “Sharia law crap.” (Direct quote from Christie.) The respect I had for him was lost when he endorsed Trump, but we could do and have done worse than Chris Christie.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6336 "2023-08-23T21:40:25Z")

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I voted Nikki Haley. I liked the way she shut down the Republicans with the “owning the libs is not leadership; it’s the opposite of leadership” line.

Also, we’re overdue for a woman president so Haley it is for me.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6337 "2023-08-23T21:50:13Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I voted Nikki Haley.

Her support for Trump in 2020 election disqualifies her in my mind. Perhaps, if she would distance herself now, it would be an act of courage and allow for some rehabilitation of her political soul. Like Christie. To my knowledge, she has not done so.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6338 "2023-08-23T21:52:17Z")

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I don’t know enough about the Republicans to vote, but i certainly prefer both Christie and Pence to Trump by a huge margin. Pence has proven he’ll follow the constitution and not destroy the country. I wish i didn’t have to say that about any of them, but i feel i do, and it’s a big point in his favor, even though i disagree with him on most every policy. And Christie seems same enough.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6339 "2023-08-23T22:03:11Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> > [@Velocity](#):
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> > I voted Nikki Haley.
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> Her support for Trump in 2020 election disqualifies her in my mind. Perhaps, if she would distance herself now, it would be an act of courage and allow for some rehabilitation of her political soul. Like Christie. To my knowledge, she has not done so.

To win in the primaries the smart money is being a great big ol’ pander bear and tell the hardliners in your party what they want to hear. Her time wasn’t in 2020. She would have destroyed her chances in the future by being against the party’s candidate. It’s called being a politician. Christie is going to find it pretty much impossible to get the nomination while alienating half of your own party.

I read somewhere that the press is fascinated by Kennedy and Christie, the two candidates that seem to want to destroy their party from within.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6340 "2023-08-23T22:05:33Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> To win in the primaries the smart money is being a great big ol’ pander bear and tell the hardliners in your party what they want to hear. Her time wasn’t in 2020. She would have destroyed her chances in the future by being against the party’s candidate

Probably true. I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt if she comes out tonight and calls Trump incompetent, corrupt, and a danger to our democracy.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6341 "2023-08-23T22:21:21Z")

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I voted to visit Hungary in the 1970s because, well, I did.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6342 "2023-08-23T23:04:05Z")

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Best Trek facial hair?

You left out mirror-universe Spock, numerous Klingons, and that guy from the episode where the guest star had a good twin and an evil twin.

I’m voting for Michael Ansara, as the Klingon commander in “Day of the Dove.”

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/6343 "2023-08-23T23:08:59Z")

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I have never seen this “Trek” you speak of.

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