# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7084 "2023-09-30T13:55:25Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> This time I was totally shocked to see that it was John Deacon. I would have thought that all four members of Queen were more iconic than that.

I recognized the name and even what instrument he plays, but I suddenly drew a blank on the band and couldn’t count it.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7085 "2023-09-30T14:23:31Z")

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I knew most of the names on the rocker list.

One major back surgery. Two outpatient.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7086 "2023-09-30T14:34:17Z")

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I’m the only fan of The Runaways?

Also, Peter Criss of KISS is listed in the spoiler but isn’t on the survey.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7087 "2023-09-30T14:47:02Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I’m the only fan of The Runaways?

I knew who she was, too. 🙂

> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> I would have thought that all four members of Queen were more iconic than that.

To be fair (and speaking as a big Queen fan), at least here in the U.S., he’s probably the least well-known of the four, particular compared to Mercury and May. Plus, he’s been retired from the band, and public life as a whole, for thirty years now.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7088 "2023-09-30T14:51:43Z")

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I am disturbed by the fact that only a third of the respondents know who Fred Schneider or Paul Kantner is/was.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/peJlsG3nFaU/maxresdefault.jpg "Oh, that's not right! No - Galaxy Quest") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peJlsG3nFaU)

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7089 "2023-09-30T14:56:35Z")

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I’m just surprised that not everyone knows the wild shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7090 "2023-09-30T15:02:20Z")

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Is “major surgery” anything one’s admitted to the hospital and put under anaesthesia for? Is “minor surgery” anything that involves cutting into the body that’s done as outpatient with local anaesthesia, while the patient’s awake?

(The definition I know best is “it’s minor surgery if it’s done on somebody else. It’s major surgery if they’re doing it on me!” but I’ve certainly heard surgeries done in hospital under general anaesthesia described as “minor” if they’re commonly done and considered low risk and don’t cause major alterations to the body.)

Does a second procedure made necessary by results of an earlier procedure count? If it’s done while still in the hospital after the earlier one, does it count as two procedures or as one? (It was two days later. I’m pretty sure the medical people thought of it as minor; implanting a pacemaker. But I was in the hospital and anaesthetized.)

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7091 "2023-09-30T15:14:01Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I am disturbed by the fact that only a third of the respondents know who Fred Schneider

I’m not that surprised. Everybody knows the B-52s, but they don’t necessarily know the band members names. I know Fred, but if you asked me to name the two women, no clue. I honestly couldn’t even name you all of the Rolling Stones, and I’m over 40; they were still producing “classic” material in my lifetime.

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7092 "2023-09-30T15:23:34Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I like shrimp, unless they’ve been cooked in a sauce i don’t care for.

Probably they are actually freezer burned, or something. I expect a shrimp to have a consistent texture, and sometimes there has been one end that is a bit mushy, even though the other end is firm, not rubbery.

Regarding surgeries, so far I’ve had minor surgery 3 times, all oral.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7093 "2023-09-30T15:37:53Z")

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I didn’t count my appendectomy (in hospital) @ age 6 as “major” surgery (which otherwise would be my only one), which to me means invasive cutting into my body, not a simple snip of an infected gland.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7094 "2023-09-30T15:39:58Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I already have very flexible hours (and fewer than 40) and I’ve been there forever and have more vacation days than i can actually take (assuming i intend to get my work done.)

I’m in the same situation. I already have flexible hours, less than 40 generally, and more vacation than I know what to do with. So it was down to office of my own or free lunch. Well, the free lunch is worth almost a $4,000 value… that’s a nice pay raise (that I can use to pay off student loans if I want.) I work in a semi-open office with half-cubes, which can be very distracting. But with so many people including me WFH, it’s not as noisy as it used to be. And if I took the office, I’d be leaving behind a team member, and I enjoy our little cubes in the back of the office by the window. I enjoy talking to her at least once a week when we’re in the office on the same day.

So I’m going with lunch.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7095 "2023-09-30T17:16:05Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> I didn’t count my appendectomy (in hospital) @ age 6 as “major” surgery (which otherwise would be my only one), which to me means invasive cutting into my body, not a simple snip of an infected gland.

So how did they get access to the appendix? Teleportation?  
They had to cut your belly open.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7096 "2023-09-30T17:39:26Z")

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I’m not sure what counts as major surgery.

I had both my knees operated on via arthroscopy when I was a teen

I had my wisdom teeth removed in my twenties (by a surgeon named Dr. Fear! And he shared an office with Dr. Hitchcock. When Dr. Fear took a look he said, “I don’t think we’ll have to break your jaw or anything to get them out.” Way to put my mind at ease!)

I had an emergency gall bladder surgery in my mid 30s. That definitely had to count. I was in the hospital for two days and it took over a month to recover. I was in too much pain to really register the gravity of the situation until it was over.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7097 "2023-09-30T18:00:14Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> > [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> > I didn’t count my appendectomy (in hospital) @ age 6 as “major” surgery (which otherwise would be my only one), which to me means invasive cutting into my body, not a simple snip of an infected gland.
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> So how did they get access to the appendix? Teleportation?  
> They had to cut your belly open.

Arrgh dyslexia.

TONSILLECTomy. %^&##%^^\*.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7098 "2023-09-30T20:08:54Z")

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I’m effectively usually righthanded, but may have trained myself that way as a child from originally being slightly lefthanded (the evidence for this is a) my mother’s testimony and b) that if I’ve never done something before, I sometimes try to do it in a left-handed fashion. ETA: also possibly c) that I’m clumsy, though there might be other reasons for that. Nobody told me to switch handedness; but I apparently thought – probably incorrectly – that they’d make me switch in school so switched myself before starting.)

So I didn’t know what to put in the hand clasping poll, which assumes that everybody’s clearly one or the other. But FWIW, when I try I discover that I have a clear preference for having the right index finger closer to the thumbs. – voted “other”.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7099 "2023-09-30T20:12:30Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Is “major surgery” anything one’s admitted to the hospital and put under anaesthesia for? Is “minor surgery” anything that involves cutting into the body that’s done as outpatient with local anaesthesia, while the patient’s awake?
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> (The definition I know best is “it’s minor surgery if it’s done on somebody else. It’s major surgery if they’re doing it on me!” but I’ve certainly heard surgeries done in hospital under general anaesthesia described as “minor” if they’re commonly done and considered low risk and don’t cause major alterations to the body.)
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> Does a second procedure made necessary by results of an earlier procedure count? If it’s done while still in the hospital after the earlier one, does it count as two procedures or as one? (It was two days later. I’m pretty sure the medical people thought of it as minor; implanting a pacemaker. But I was in the hospital and anaesthetized.)

Eye of the beholder kind of thing. My spinal fusion was major. A scope of my knee was not. My criteria? My own opinion

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7100 "2023-09-30T20:33:27Z")

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I was a bit confused about the major surgery thing too. I did have one where I was checked into the hospital and expected to stay overnight, but didn’t need to, so they let me go. I had a helluva night at home with reacting to the anesthesia insane headache but here I am to tell the tale so I marked it as day surgery. I had a similar procedure a couple of years later that was done as day surgery.

Oh, I’d be very happy with a job with good benefits. I’ve been self employed and benefits are much harder and expensive to deal with that way. Even the ones you can write off.

I didn’t vote in the name of musician poll because, frankly, I’m bored by those polls. Sorry/not sorry.

Shrimpies are pretty delicious but I have thyroid issues so I only allow myself seafood rarely.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7101 "2023-09-30T20:35:10Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Only one outpatient surgery, as well: having my impacted wisdom teeth extracted. That, too, was under general anesthesia (because I didn’t care to be awake for it), but I was sent home once I’d woken up.

I woke up while the oral surgeon was still struggling with my right lower wisdom tooth. That was weird.

My surgeries were all minor (knock wood). Removal of a benign tumor on my foot. The above mentioned wisdom teeth surgery. Cataract surgery. I once had a susicious lymph node that, thankfully, turned out to be a benign situation. Tonsils (with a ear surgery at the same time).

Does Lasix count?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7102 "2023-09-30T20:42:02Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> Does Lasix count?

Ladin is a brand name for the diuretic furosemide, so no.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7103 "2023-09-30T20:43:10Z")

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Guess I’m being whooshed. But I meant the eye surgery. Did I misspell it?

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