# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 377
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7524 "2023-10-16T14:48:13Z")
I just eliminated ten cold places, but that still leaves lots of places that are too cold for me. I think I might choose unemployment before I would move north of, say, the 35th parallel. Or inland. I don’t care who my neighbors vote for, and Trump won’t be around long enough to affect major life decisions like moving far away. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7525 "2023-10-16T14:58:59Z")
I eliminated “the south” as much as I could. I swore my last visit to “the south” would be my last. Too much open, blatant racism. In reality, states like North Dakota would also be eliminated as well as any state without at least a medical marijuana program. Really I’m happy in western Pennsylvania. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7526 "2023-10-16T15:05:53Z")
Yeah, not going south, for both political and climate reasons. If I’m going in any direction it’s going to be north and/or west. I’d go to New England. Pacific northwest maybe. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7527 "2023-10-16T16:19:32Z")
> [@peccavi](#): > > On states to veto a transfer to, it’s simple. No state that went for Trump in 2016 or 2020 is worth keeping my job if I have to live in a dumpster fire. Unfortunately, that’s more than 10. > [@Bayaker](#): > > I just eliminated ten cold places I’d probably have to eliminate the hottest places that are also strongly Trumpist. Cold I can deal with. Haven’t voted yet, though, and might not; because while a couple of places that have been in the news a lot are obvious, some of the others I’d have to research, and if I’m going to do research that’ll take more than five minutes I really should be researching something other than a random poll. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7528 "2023-10-16T16:52:45Z")
Not attracted to flat states or most of the south. I did not select Georgia or even Texas - I could make a go of it in those states based on climate or scenery. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7529 "2023-10-16T17:35:57Z")
I had to wrestle between states that are too hot and states where i hate the politics. Even though there’s a lot of overlap, it’s more than 10 states ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7530 "2023-10-16T18:12:15Z")
I dropped Florida and Texas immediately. I’ve lived in one of them and I ain’t going back, and they both suck for a multitude of reasons. After those, it was just figuring out which were second worst. I did keep some red states, obviously, and gave them some thought. Wyoming for example, I like Wyoming. Yes, the politics suck, but it’s a lovely state. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7531 "2023-10-16T18:15:25Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Wyoming for example, I like Wyoming. Yes, the politics suck, but it’s a lovely state. Well, the only state with a lower population density is Alaska, so even though you’re surrounded by shitheads, at least they’re theoretically far away. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7532 "2023-10-16T20:49:10Z")
In the veto states poll, I eliminated most of the south, and especially Florida due to the overlapping factors of Too Hot, Too Humid, and Too Trump-y. I figure I might have to compromise on one, possibly two of the issues, but all three means I’d rather look for a different job. I really strongly considered vetoing Texas, but I do have a lot of family and friends living there (in Austin and Dallas), so I put it a category of not being wanted, but not so bad as to blow a veto on, which is true of many of the metropolitan areas of the South. But that still leaves the hot and humid - not enough climate control in the world. Now, if I was only allowed to veto one state, it would be Florida, because it’s hot, humid, Trumpy, fallen into fascism, AND apparently pissed off God enough to be at risk of destruction several times a year! ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7533 "2023-10-17T01:26:53Z")
Interesting that the current top 6 vetoed states border one another: Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7534 "2023-10-17T01:45:14Z")
Hot, humid and racist. The trifecta of awful. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7535 "2023-10-17T02:48:07Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana. See, I could live in Arkansas. It has the beautiful Ozarks, the liberal Eureka Springs, and the best lecterns in the country. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7536 "2023-10-17T02:53:37Z")
> [@Bayaker](#): > > I just eliminated ten cold places, but that still leaves lots of places that are too cold for me. I think I might choose unemployment before I would move north of, say, the 35th parallel. Or inland. > > I don’t care who my neighbors vote for, and Trump won’t be around long enough to affect major life decisions like moving far away. Same. I could have picked a few more cold states. I did pick NY because although the southern part has had mild winters lately I don’t want to chance being near lake effect snow. It’s a big state. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7537 "2023-10-17T02:54:27Z")
ISWYDT Yes. discourse. You’re a nanny-bot ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7538 "2023-10-17T02:58:49Z")
I’ve been escorted out of an establishment, but it’s not my fault, I swear. You see a few years before The Coat of Arms in Portsmouth, New Hampshire closed for good, I met a group of friends from work there. We’d been there before, and went back later, so it’s not as if we got _banned_… Anyway, one of my friends had a college friend visiting, and she wasn’t American, and she forgot her passport where she was staying 20 miles away. No worries, we thought, because she had her license. The waiter told her to everyone’s surprise that they couldn’t serve her on the basis of a foreign license. We were all in our 20s, so we knew trying to convince the waiter she was over 21 would be a futile effort, so she was left sad and drinkless after our orders were taken. “Not to worry,” said a genius friend in hearing of the waiter. **“I’ll just order drinks for you.”** …and that’s when we were all led out of the pub and instructed not to return without her passport in hand. We found a less picky sports bar somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7539 "2023-10-17T14:06:57Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Hot, humid and racist. The trifecta of awful. This. Also a lot of those are unfriendly to my friends and family. I have many gay and trans friends. And my son is unwilling to visit any state where he might theoretically be prosecuted for helping his then-fiance to abort their ectopic pregnancy. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7540 "2023-10-17T15:39:48Z")
I am of two minds in this regard. As a white middle-aged middle-class heterosexual cisgendered male, my everyday life is not really affected by horrible politics. But unlike some people, I am concerned about people who are not me. So do I want to live in a liberal bubble, or can I stomach going someplace where I can at least vote against the monsters, and try to be one voice gently influencing my neighbors toward acceptance and kindness? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7541 "2023-10-17T17:38:42Z")
I have, admittedly, stated my age on the internet. But I seem to be shy of posting actual dates. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7542 "2023-10-17T18:05:29Z")
I hear yuh, but for me its more like I see someone drowning in a pool. Better to pull them out than jump in with them and maybe drown, too. Your one voice gently influencing won’t move anyone who refuses to listen, and that’s most of them. In the _no longer welcome_ poll I checked off Encouraged. When I was in the navy in Winter Harbor I and four buddies drove the 50-odd miles to Bangor and the harness racing track there for an evening of racing excitement. We all won money so were in a pretty good mood when we left the track about 10pm but then we noticed the headlights were growing ever dimmer as we went along. Turned out the guy whose car it was had jump-started it a couple days before then charged the battery with a portable charger once he got home. He had blown the bridge rectifier though, so the alternator was no longer working but had only driven it the few miles to work in daylight a couple times not draining the battery much. The 50-watt headlights were a different story. We made it to Ellsworth, the halfway point, and there was nothing but dark from there to Winter Harbor so we stopped there, abandoning the car at a closed mechanic. One of the guys was married with a wife and auto at home so she was the one called and talked into coming out to rescue us, but where to meet? There was a bar and a Dunkin’ Donuts within easy reach but none of us were big on drinking (astonishing, I know) so DD it was. We walk in, order donuts and coffee, and are enjoying them for a while, then 11:30 rolls around and the workers start stacking chairs on tables, sweeping, and looking at us real pointedly. This was 45 years ago and at that time we’d never _heard_ of Dunkin’ Donuts being anything but 24-hours, but we’d found one. This was also wa-a-ay before cell phones so we had no way of telling our rescuer about a change of plans. We wound up standing under the Dunkin’ Donuts sign on a crisp fall night grumbling at the guy who’d insisted on using his car. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7543 "2023-10-17T19:47:11Z")
> [@peccavi](#): > > On states to veto a transfer to, it’s simple. No state that went for Trump in 2016 or 2020 is worth keeping my job if I have to live in a dumpster fire. More or less, that is how I voted. But I kept Fla due to Disney World, but that was a maybe. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=376) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=378)