# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/782 "2022-12-08T19:14:37Z")

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The key question is whether one commonly flew overseas. If yes, they probably have flown a wide variety of wide-body jets. If not, domestic US flights are virtually all narrow-body nowadays.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/783 "2022-12-08T19:17:00Z")

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Lufthansa loved (still loves?) 747s for US-Germany flights, and I’ve been on plenty of those going back to the 70s. The rows at the back had like 13 seats each.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/784 "2022-12-08T19:27:28Z")

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I’ve been on 5 747s, across two trips. The first was when my former employer sent me to India. San Francisco - Frankfurt - Bangalore, and Bangalore - Frankfurt were all on Lufthansa 747-400s. There would have been a fourth 747 flight in there, but the return flight was late and I missed my connecting flight, so I ended up on a United 777 instead.

The other two were LAX-SYD and back on Qantas.

I’m surprised someone picked “I don’t know” for the Concorde poll. How could you not know you were on a Concorde? It was the world’s only supersonic airliner, so I’m pretty sure you’d know if you were on one. And I’m pretty sure you had to specifically book the Concorde flight as opposed to the regular subsonic flight.

On a different subject, _seriously_, you guys voted to give up backup cameras? As I said before, they’re a _safety feature_. Like seat belts, you might not think you need them… until you do. People have run over children because they couldn’t see them playing in the driveway behind their car. Those are the kinds of accidents backup cameras are meant to prevent. I never expected to use this phrase, but think of the children.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/785 "2022-12-08T19:28:35Z")

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I did NOT vote to give up backup cameras. That would have been the last feature of have kept, much as I like my intermittent wipers.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/786 "2022-12-08T19:31:19Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> On a different subject, _seriously_, you guys voted to give up backup cameras? As I said before, they’re a _safety feature_. Like seat belts, you might not think you need them… until you do.

We’re not _actually_ giving up back up cameras. It’s just a poll. We’re saying perhaps we value other features more on a day to day basis.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/787 "2022-12-08T19:37:02Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I did NOT vote to give up backup cameras.

Me either.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/788 "2022-12-08T19:39:13Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> We’re not _actually_ giving up back up cameras.

I know that, obviously. But I was a little surprised that the plurality of voters in the poll apparently value convenience more than safety. Which made me wonder if there might be some misunderstanding as to why backup cameras exist.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/789 "2022-12-08T19:49:26Z")

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Some of us don’t have backup cameras to give up

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/790 "2022-12-08T19:54:47Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> How could you not know you were on a Concorde?

Maybe they were very young?

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/791 "2022-12-08T19:56:20Z")

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Yeah, I guess I took a vote for backup cameras as meaning you wouldn’t want one on a new car if you don’t have one now.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/792 "2022-12-08T20:21:29Z")

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Some of my happiest early childhood memories are of the 747. I actually once cried at age 4 or 5 because I did not want to get off the plane. My father had to carry me out on his shoulders. This was after a United Airlines flight from Taipei to San Francisco.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/793 "2022-12-08T20:26:32Z")

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> [@Zyada](#):
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> Some of us don’t have backup cameras to give up

I don’t; but I presumed I was voting, not on what I actually had, but on what I’d have if given the choice.

I wonder whether that affected the vote, though.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/794 "2022-12-08T20:37:16Z")

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Whereas i had to make an emergency exit (down the slides!) of a 747 when i was twelve. I didn’t love the plane before that, and it made me uncomfortable after that. I will not mourn it.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/795 "2022-12-08T20:47:50Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I think it would be good if women weren’t ever expected to wear makeup, and nobody wore it because they thought they had to.
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> But some people (of various genders) appear to think it’s fun; and I don’t think it would be good if they were somehow forbidden to wear it.

This is how I feel, and the stark choices in the poll prevented me from choosing anything.

Since I’m retired, I rarely wear makeup anymore. But I never went to work without light foundation, blush, eyeliner, mascara, and lipstick – all applied with a light hand. It took me a while, but I finally got used to my naked face. I even go out in public!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/796 "2022-12-08T20:56:36Z")

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I voted Yes for the “airbags deployed” option, even though they didn’t. They hadn’t been invented yet! I also voted Yes for the “Boat” option. Although I wasn’t _technically_ **on** the boat when it sank, I _was_ wearing a vest when I hit the water.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/797 "2022-12-08T21:00:09Z")

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There was an earthquake in the DC area about 10 years ago. I was at work at the time. Had to evacuate the building. It took way longer than it should have for people to realize what was happening. There wasn’t any damage even though the building has a lot of glass.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/798 "2022-12-08T21:02:51Z")

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We had to evacuate our building during the 2001 (or 2002) earthquake in the Puget Sound area. (but that’s just prudent behavior. The building was undamaged) I once had to evacuate a building in D.C. (near the White House) due to a bomb scare (not a drill, but not a real threat–in retrospect)

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/799 "2022-12-08T21:03:31Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> But I never went to work without light foundation, blush, eyeliner, mascara, and lipstick – all applied with a light hand.

My recruiter tried very hard to convince me to wear makeup for the interview. I said i wasn’t willing to wear it to work, so if they didn’t want a women with a naked face, they may as well turn me down at the interview.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/800 "2022-12-08T21:04:46Z")

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I voted “none” in the evacuation poll, but I have evacuated buildings at times that were not drills, but turned out to be false alarms, including a few hoax bomb threats in high school. But I don’t think that’s what was meant by “not a drill”.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/801 "2022-12-08T21:05:06Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I voted Yes for the “airbags deployed” option, even though they didn’t. They hadn’t been invented yet!

I had the same sort of experience – in '94, I hit a deer in my car while doing about 50mph. Airbags existed back then, but my older car didn’t have them (but if it had, they definitely would have gone off).

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