# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7984 "2023-11-10T21:58:18Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> They don’t script out that stumble on the quadruple camel or the the perfect 10.

I don’t know if this was intentionally meant to be funny, but it made me laugh.

I like @thorny_locust 's solution for the manic car buyer. If you tell him no, he’s likely to go another dealer and buy the cars there. This way you can make him happy without having to tell him ‘no’ outright.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7985 "2023-11-10T22:51:20Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> According to Price, the next batter, Joe Pepitone, motioned to McLain for a similar gift and McLain only laughed.

My recall of the story is that McLain knocked Pepitone on his ass.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7986 "2023-11-10T23:02:54Z")

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There wasn’t an option for “I’ll take one _only_ if you give it to me for free.”  
I suppose that counts as “Under $10,000,” so I chose that, but it’d have to be _way_ under. And you’d have to install the charger in my garage at no cost too.

I have a feeling these things are going to be white elephants, practically unsellable in a few years. I might be wrong, but at least if I didn’t have to pay for it I can make a few bucks selling it for scrap metal when I get tired of it and/or the thing breaks down.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7987 "2023-11-11T01:23:57Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Heh, you should probably pick all three of the “not even if you gave it to me” answers. Aesthetic issues (check), Elon Musk issues (check), and reliability (the infrastructure/physical catch all).

Except that I would take it if you gave it to me – I just wouldn’t keep it, I’d promptly re-sell it.

> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Mostly, I wanted people’s honest evaluations of what the features of the vehicle, MINUS all the aesthetic, social, poor visibility and over-sized nature of the vehicle resulted in as a fair price

Oh. I can’t answer that without spending a lot more time finding out about the vehicle. I knew nothing about it before I saw the poll, and basically just took about a 30-second look on line. I didn’t even figure out that it was oversized; just that the truck bed appeared to me in the picture to be rather the reverse.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7988 "2023-11-11T04:02:04Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I love good ginger ale. But it’s usually too sweet now. Vernor’s disappeared decades again and was re-introduced a while later, but the formula had changed to a sweeter one. I want _bite_ when I drink ginger ale. I hate sweet tea.

Have you tried Barritt’s?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7989 "2023-11-11T05:10:43Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> > [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> > Allegedly, Denny McLain fed Mickey Mantle some meatballs…
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> This happened on 9/19/1968. My brother spoke with the Tiger’s catcher, Jim Price, several decades after the fact. Price told him the story and gave some details. Price said he whispered to Mantle behind the ump’s back that McLain was going to lay one in there, but Mantle didn’t believe him and let the first one go. He fouled the second pitch off, then hit the third into the upper deck.
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> According to Price, the next batter, Joe Pepitone, motioned to McLain for a similar gift and McLain only laughed.
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> mmm

It happened during McLain’s 31st win. I don’t think he was worried about ruining his season.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7990 "2023-11-11T15:13:02Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I want _bite_ when I drink ginger ale.

**AJ Stephans Ginger Beer**. Accept nothing less.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7991 "2023-11-11T15:27:43Z")

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A good friend of mine worked for Tesla, as a customer-service rep, for two years. Not only did the company reneg on several promises, related to the job, which they made to my friend when they hired him, but he found it to be a completely toxic corporate culture, and that they routinely failed to live up to expectations that they had set up for their customers, as well.

I rolled all of that into “Issues with Elon Musk” when I answered the poll, reasoning that a fair amount of that corporate culture comes down from him. Also, it’s a really ugly truck:

[https://www.tesla.com/xNVh4yUEc3B9/04\_Desktop.jpg](https://www.tesla.com/xNVh4yUEc3B9/04_Desktop.jpg)

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7992 "2023-11-11T18:37:04Z")

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I picked “rice” because I’d usually go for rice, and I definitely wouldn’t go for noodles. But occasionally, depending on the stirfry, my mood, what’s in the house, and what’s in the house that’s fast to get ready, it’ll be something else altogether.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7993 "2023-11-11T18:39:23Z")

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I’d take the truck, but only if I could use it for warthog jumping.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nGQIQljaAc0/hqdefault.jpg "Warthog jump") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGQIQljaAc0&t=49)

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7994 "2023-11-11T18:48:45Z")

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We sometimes just have stir fry, and don’t put it over anything.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7995 "2023-11-11T18:50:05Z")

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Yeah, that’s another possibility. I’ll often (also?) have it as a veggie side dish.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7996 "2023-11-11T19:39:28Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> **AJ Stephans Ginger Beer**. Accept nothing less.

Thanks, and thanks to @Little_Nemo for the Barritt’s recommendation. I’ve never noticed either of these brands, but I’ll look for them.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7997 "2023-11-11T21:35:18Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Heh, you should probably pick all three of the “not even if you gave it to me” answers. Aesthetic issues (check), Elon Musk issues (check), and reliability (the infrastructure/physical catch all).

I don’t understand why anyone would refuse a free car becuase they thought the CEO was an asshole.

Many Americans buy cars made in China, and the boss of bosses there is a communist Dictator.

And the infrastructure for a Tesla is fantastic.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> A good friend of mine worked for Tesla, as a customer-service rep, for two years. Not only did the company reneg on several promises, related to the job, which they made to my friend when they hired him,

A assume those “promises” were not in writing?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7998 "2023-11-11T22:19:04Z")

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My nephew worked for Tesla, coding self driving features. He liked it, and supported Musk and the Twitter purchase longer than anyone else i know.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/7999 "2023-11-11T22:19:18Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And the infrastructure for a Tesla is fantastic.

As I mentioned upthread, infrastructure was shorthand for all the physical issues with having or getting the vehicle, for folks who don’t have a garage, or one which wouldn’t fix, or (like myself right now) would have to rewired half their house to get a charger installed, or so on and so forth.

And sure, they’re people who will buy things in China because they’re cheap, or they have no other feasible option, despite not approving of China’s government, but there are a decent number who refuse to do so if they can avoid it as well. It also borrows the verbiage from our multiple Musk/Cybertruck/EV purchase threads where people can acknowledge the value of BEVs and even Teslas, but the thought of supporting, or even being seen as supporting Musk outweighs the value _when there are other options available_.

Onto Stir Fry options!

I picked “it depends”. If I’m making an Asian, or Asian fusion stir fry, I’ll go with rice or Trader Joe’s Whole Wheat udon, or even rice vermicelli depending on time or inclination. The noodle options are normally easier than making rice, since I don’t have a rice cooker anymore (stored it when I started low carbing a while back, and if I want it I just make it in a pot) - and has far less cleanup and water waste compared to rinsing rice. But if I want rice, and I often do, I’ll make it.

For various Mexican-inspired stir fries, well, mostly tortillas, corn or flour, if not just served plain on a plate, or over a green salad (jalapano-onion-lime fish stir-fry over a mixed green salad is amazing).

For Indian inspired stir-fries, well, rarely basmati (for the same reasons of the extra steps) or over saag, or on top of a fresh (purchased or griddled) flatbread.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/8000 "2023-11-11T22:20:57Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> My nephew worked for Tesla, coding self driving features. He liked it, and supported Musk and the Twitter purchase longer than anyone else i know.

Does he still?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/8001 "2023-11-11T22:23:19Z")

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No. He was making excuses about how Musk was better for Tesla than for Twitter last i talked to him.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/8002 "2023-11-12T03:12:15Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I don’t understand why anyone would refuse a free car becuase they thought the CEO was an asshole.

Like other people, I fell into the gap between “I wouldn’t take one if you gave it to me” and “I’d pay up to $10,000”.

I have no real desire for a Cybertruck and wouldn’t pay nine thousand dollars for one. But I’d take one if it was offered to me for free.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/8003 "2023-11-12T03:37:00Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I have no real desire for a Cybertruck and wouldn’t pay nine thousand dollars for one. But I’d take one if it was offered to me for free.

Yeah, same here. I got no way to charge it at home, but there are superchargers not far. Or just sell it.

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