# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9184 "2024-01-10T18:00:23Z")

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If I scribble a note to leave on the kitchen counter for my gf it will be half cursive half printing. It is legible.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9185 "2024-01-10T21:45:38Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> My signature is the only time I use cursive anymore, so chose the NOTA option tho “Almost never” would have worked, I guess.

Same here.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9186 "2024-01-10T23:39:18Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> They have a 1980 MGB, but it didn’t make into the poll.

Ah. I checked the list, but I missed that one; maybe I quit looking once they got past the early 50’s, as it would have had to be earlier than that to have been like my father’s.

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**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9187 "2024-01-11T02:53:51Z")

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I was a Journalism major (1987-91) and never saw “lead” spelled “lede” until I started reading the Dope. When I first saw it spelled that way, I thought it was a typo. Heck, I worked on my college paper and on my hometown rag and never knew anyone who spelled “lead” that way.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9188 "2024-01-11T02:57:04Z")

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HAHAHAHAHA! Gotcha all, at long last!!! 😈

After all of the words that I am supposedly mispronouncing (and I’m a-gonna keep on mispronouncin’ them), if not words I am allegedly misspelling/using the wrong term/homonym/whatever, my hunch about one term has been confirmed!!

[‘Lead’ vs. ‘lede’: Roy Peter Clark has the definitive answer, at last](https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2019/lead-vs-lede-roy-peter-clark-has-the-definitive-answer-at-last/)

> My interest in these topics was ignited recently when the Poynter website briefly expressed a preference for “lede,” a spelling I had avoided since my arrival in St. Pete in 1977. For me, the spelling has been “lead.” After all, a well-written first sentence leads the reader into the story. In addition, lede felt like, not jargon, but slang, from the same generation as —30— to represent the end of a story, and “hed” as short for headline.
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> Sitting as I am near a library of about 12,000 journalism books, I decided to re-create Owens’s research — maybe kick it up a notch if I could. His conclusion was that there was “no historic basis for the spelling of a lead as ‘lede.’ ‘Lede’ is an invention of linotype romanticists, not something used in newsrooms of the linotype era.”

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9189 "2024-01-11T03:02:49Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> After all of the words that I am supposedly mispronouncing (and I’m a-gonna keep on mispronouncin’ them), if not words I am allegedly misspelling/using the wrong term/homonym/whatever, my hunch about one term has been confirmed!!

My cite says a little different-

[Bury the Lede or Bury the Lead? Idiom Tips and Origins | Proofed](https://proofed.com/writing-tips/idiom-tips-bury-the-lede-or-bury-the-lead/#:~:text=However%2C%20%E2%80%9Clede%E2%80%9D%20is%20the,be%20used%20in%20journalism%20today).

_Both “bury the lede” and “bury the lead” are acceptable spellings of this phrase. However, “lede” is the journalistic spelling that originated in newsrooms in the mid-20th century. It was created to avoid confusion with “lead,” the metal traditionally used in printing presses. Even though digital printing has largely replaced physical printing, “lede” continues to be used in journalism today. In 2008, it was even added to the [Merriam-Webster dictionary](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lede)._

_### Which One Should You Use?_

_Whether to use “lede” or “lead” depends on your audience and context. If you’re writing for a news publication or using the term in a journalistic context, “lede” is the preferred spelling. However, if you’re writing for a general audience or not referring specifically to journalism, either spelling is acceptable._

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9190 "2024-01-11T03:05:56Z")

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_The Wager_ is actually a pretty damn good book. Those who like Hornblower or Aubrey will like it.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9191 "2024-01-11T03:22:09Z")

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I have a landline but it’s through the cable company not the phone company. Getting a phone line along with cable and internet was cheaper than just cable and internet. I don’t even know the number.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9192 "2024-01-11T03:45:58Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I have a landline but it’s through the cable company not the phone company.

I didn’t answer, because I didn’t know whether this counts as a real landline or not.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9193 "2024-01-11T04:03:47Z")

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I still have a traditional landline (through AT&T), mostly because cell service isn’t great here – yes, I’m in suburban Chicago, but surrounded by forest preserves, and (apparently) not many cell towers in the immediate area.

I even have two (older) phones in the house which are still hard-wired into the wall, though those get very little use; the cordless phones are what we use 99% of the time.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9194 "2024-01-11T15:00:49Z")

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I’d be interested in the Leigh Bardugo book, as I’ve read and liked all the Grishaverse books, but haven’t gotten to it.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9195 "2024-01-11T15:42:46Z")

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I liked it, but I thought the first book in the series was stronger (9th House).

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9196 "2024-01-11T18:09:15Z")

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Thirty-some-odd years ago, when it was last independently appraised, my keister was found to be my best physical asset. I’m reasonably sure that time has taken its toll since then.

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9197 "2024-01-11T18:53:11Z")

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My cursive is almost unreadable, but my printing is no better (my daughter once called me from the store to ask what “after kilters” meant - upon close examination, “coffee filters”).

I’m kind of surprised to discover I’ve read none of the books on the list. I had the Scalzi book on my library wish list already, and I’ve read other books by several of the authors. Thanks to the poll, though, I now have more books on my wish list!

As for best and worst features, I’m now off an age when my best physical features are whichever things still work without pain or medical intervention. My lungs and liver, say, are especially in my good books right now; my right hip and left thumb are on notice.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9198 "2024-01-11T19:16:33Z")

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> [@InternetLegend](#):
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> I had the Scalzi book on my library wish list already

Oh, are you why my copy didn’t renew? I’m in the middle of it; it should be back at the library soon, but I’m afraid it won’t be today.

> [@InternetLegend](#):
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> As for best and worst features, I’m now off an age when my best physical features are whichever things still work without pain or medical intervention

Ayup. My teeth won’t win any Pretty Perfectly Spaced Awards, but (crosses fingers) they’re all still there except the one molar pulled in my 20’s because it didn’t fit, and none of them hurt. And those fingers are holding up well, too.

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9199 "2024-01-11T20:23:02Z")

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It’s not me! There are 40 people waiting for 9 copies at my library, so I’m biding my time. If you have Book 7 of Elly Griffith’s Ruth Galloway mystery series, though, I’d appreciate you getting done with that one.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9200 "2024-01-11T20:24:48Z")

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We called it “garbage soup”. Mom had a fancy-ass soupstone that always went in the pot.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9201 "2024-01-11T20:27:03Z")

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We never did that, but I have an uncle who would make jook (rice congee) and go through the fridge, tossing anything he found into it. I found a whole lemon in there once, rind and all.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9202 "2024-01-11T20:31:10Z")

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My folks didn’t make everything soup but I do. I made a good veggie soup, and after a birthday meal with my sister I had leftover sauerbraten. Chopped it up and threw it in the veggie soup. Had too much so I frozed half of it. Ater Thanksgiving I had leftover turkey, it went in thawed soup, along with some fresh carrots, onion, and a small bag of frozen veggies. I now have soup that is part ham and bean, but was almost gone, so threw it in too

Soup can be like a sourdough starter. You keep adding and dividing. But it’s all gone now, except for one bowl which gets eaten today. Now I’ll have to start over.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/9203 "2024-01-11T20:33:53Z")

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I usually have everything for chicken soup on hand.

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