# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1602 "2023-01-19T01:46:34Z")
_Raises hand…_ “What’s a Nubian?” 12 quatloos to whomever gets that. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1603 "2023-01-19T03:12:43Z")
To whoever gets your goat? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1604 "2023-01-19T04:46:04Z")
About the pet thread: My family kept four miniature chickens when I was age 11-13. I’ve never been able to find them on Google or any form of internet search to see what species they were. They were essentially like really big sparrows, but they laid small chicken-like eggs. I’m still trying to find what sort of bird they are exactly. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1605 "2023-01-19T05:00:08Z")
Bantams? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1606 "2023-01-19T05:05:25Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I do not own a squeegee Damn right ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1607 "2023-01-19T05:48:37Z")
No, they were really just big sparrow-like birds. They were called “miniature chickens” in Taiwan, and laid eggs, but they did not resemble actual chickens. They were these big sparrow like birds that fit in the palm of your hand and laid small chicken-type eggs. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1608 "2023-01-19T12:01:14Z")
Quail? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1609 "2023-01-19T12:06:54Z")
Kind of, but I think still not the exact same species. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1610 "2023-01-19T12:18:36Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > I think the drinking age should be lower than it is now; I think raising it didn’t work Is there evidence one way or the other? As I understand it, the drinking age was raised to 21 in an attempt to cut down on drunk driving. Did it do so? (That is, did instances of drunk driving go down, and if so, is there reason to believe causation rather than just correlation?) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1611 "2023-01-19T12:39:44Z")
It’s hard to say, because social conventions around drink driving, and the legal treatment of drink driving, also changed. I oppose the higher drinking age because it’s led to young adults drinking with no adult supervision, and no “norms” around moderate drinking. Binge drinking on college campuses has exploded since the drinking age went up. There’s an argument that kids shouldn’t be learning to drink and learning to drive at the same time: the drinking age and the driving age should be different. I think we could better serve this purpose with a drinking age of 12. Let kids learn to drink at home, supervised by their parents. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1612 "2023-01-19T12:49:56Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > There’s an argument that kids shouldn’t be learning to drink and learning to drive at the same time I drank a ton of beer when I was 16-18. A friend’s uncle owned a beer distributorship and my friend would buy cases for anyone who wanted one. We binged hard. Looking back at that time, we were lucky we mostly survived. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1613 "2023-01-19T12:52:34Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I forced myself to look it dead in the eye, grabbed an umbrella and attacked the shit out of it. This made me laugh. My gf walks our dogs in the woods, carrying a big golf umbrella as coyote protection. She must have read somewhere about it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1614 "2023-01-19T13:17:34Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > To whoever gets your goat? _Chasing Amy_ reference. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1615 "2023-01-19T13:35:08Z")
[off-topic] I recently joined reddit and made a poll there. I knew reddit was a “big room,” especially compared to here but boy, that poll in a fairly niche sub has 941 votes and 6900 views in 18 hours. [/off-topic] ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1616 "2023-01-19T16:34:30Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > we have one in the bathroom, to clean the walls after showering. Same here. It hangs on hook attached to the wall with a suction cup. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1617 "2023-01-19T16:38:46Z")
We have many squeegies. One in each bathroom, two in the garage for the cars, one in the sunroom, that has an eight foot long handle and multiple heads for washing, rinsing, and squeegieing. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1618 "2023-01-19T17:10:11Z")
We also have tools to scrape ice off the cars that aren’t exactly squeegees, but are similar in some ways. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1619 "2023-01-19T17:17:05Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I oppose the higher drinking age because it’s led to young adults drinking with no adult supervision, and no “norms” around moderate drinking. Binge drinking on college campuses has exploded since the drinking age went up. > > There’s an argument that kids shouldn’t be learning to drink and learning to drive at the same time: the drinking age and the driving age should be different. I think we could better serve this purpose with a drinking age of 12. Let kids learn to drink at home, supervised by their parents. I was thinking 14, though I’m rarely brave enough to say so in public. Lowering the driving age is impractical in most rural areas. But yes indeed, learning to drink while learning to drive – or even learning to drink while licensed to drive – is a bad idea. And I’ll add to this and to your other points: when drinking is something not allowed until one’s 21 – it becomes something Grown Up to do. 18 year olds, and 16 year olds, want to do what the adults can do. So there’s a strong incentive for them to drink illegally and, as you say, without supervision – especially as any adult supervisors often would risk being thrown in jail for doing so. If drinking is something 14 year olds can do – then getting drunk becomes a child’s mistake, not an adult’s goal post. 16 and 18 year olds (and of course older people) don’t want to be seen as silly children. > [@silenus](#): > > _Chasing Amy_ reference. Thanks. Mine was an actual livestock reference. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1620 "2023-01-19T17:30:30Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > We also have tools to scrape ice off the cars that aren’t exactly squeegees, but are similar in some ways We keep scrapers in the cars during the winter. The wash/squeegee tools are separate things not used for snow or ice. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1621 "2023-01-19T20:31:59Z")
I have no squeegee. My sisters and I did, as kids, have guinea pigs, though. Don’t think they appeared in the poll. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=80) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380.md?page=82)